Ah yes, the grand political excellence of Ohio can no longer be questioned! A veritable Mecca for those who have died but still simply wish to embrace the right to death, a good casket and the right to still keep on voting especially in the 12th district. While Oct. 31st (Halloween) is still a couple of months away, the somewhat early grand haunting of Ohio voting booths were reported just 2 days ago. It would seem there are 170 Ohio voters over 116-117 years old and since the oldest person on the face of the earth just died at the age of 115, the others must be none other than zombies or those who have not headed for the light after their passing. Perhaps the aged and ghostly democrat voters were held up in purgatory until they changed their ways but in any case, for whatever reason, their votes were counted. I would think that there should be some sort of warning to voters such as: If the person in line and in front of you appears to be one of the dearly departed, please show the proper respect because their votes count just as much or more than yours.
Sad as it is, @Bobby Cole, our voting system is so compromised (and getting worse) that there is little hope that polling (voting) will ever be truly valid. Motor/Voter was pushed and many states and resulted in a LOT of people getting registered to vote who were not in any way eligible. You may have heard me complain about multi-citizenship, another cause of fraud, and voter rolls were "frozen" during a previous administration that made it difficult for voters to be purged from the electoral rolls. The frozen rolls essentially prevents people who have ever registered from being removed from the rolls, thus making fraudulent voting almost a given in most states. One of my sons was (perhaps still is) registered to vote in three states. He could have voted in one and sent absentee ballots to the other two and all would have been counted. There always seems to be a "lost box" of predominantly Democrat votes lying around in many precincts.
I like the premise but truthfully, I am all for voter ID. There may be some problems attaining one for a few individuals but overall, it should be just as easy as attaining a basic I.D. from the DMV. One thing I do not understand is that he quoted some stats concerning how many people in 3 or 4 states didn't have any identification but how is that possible? According to federal law, a person needs 2 forms of I.D. just to sign an I-9 form in order to have a job. Even if a person doesn't have a job and is on welfare, that person still needs some identification. Bank accounts, utility systems, signing a lease, driving a car or any number of things need some form of I.D. so why not for voting if it does indeed get rid of the dead people and illegals who persist on voting? And, it's not like someone is supposed to wait until a day before the voting booth opens to get one. People have weeks and months if not years to get a voter I.D. so why worry about how often the I.D. office is open? Dunno……...somehow I just see the sense in it...…………...
Sorry, I just thought it was a funny video someone might enjoy. Oliver has a unique way of presenting issues in a comical way. I don't like to debate, so I'll just make a couple comments and leave it at that. It is a hassle to get a voter ID in Georgia. My mother quit driving when my father retired, and I had to take her to get an ID when they started that stuff here. That was before they required a birth certificate (with an embossed seal), or we would have had to mail to Ohio to get one. She wouldn't have wanted to bother anyone, didn't want to bother me, but I insisted. Believe it or not, there are people who don't know how to do things, don't know how to find out, or go about doing them, if they did find out. Do they not deserve to vote because of that. I had some very poor relatives and ancestors, so maybe I am able to sympathize more than some. I can imagine there are many adults who have families, hold down two jobs, maybe lucky to own one car, or to even get enough sleep every day. The last thing on their minds is jumping through hoops to vote. I suspect folks in those situations are underrepresented also because of voter ID. I guess I wish now the video had presented it as a poverty issue instead.
@Nancy Hart I guess your mother cannot buy alcohol in many states or fly in a commercial aircraft. Somehow those are not curtailed by requiring a photo ID, but voting is. Unfortunately most of the folks who don't want IDs presented for voting are simply against requiring citizenship or residency to vote. I am with @Bobby Cole and I really didn't find the clip funny--just propaganda disguised as humor. Sorry.
I have no idea how many dead people actually vote but it would be common sense to run the voter registration files against the Social Security Death Record database annually to weed out dead people. Using a driving license as ID is a little bit tricky now that some states allow aliens to obtain driving licenses and the cost of a photo ID can be prohibitive for some people. Where I live we have to sign the voter roll when we go to the polling place and if more than one person shows up or the signature does not match the one from the previous year it should raise a red flag. I'm ok with enhanced security of some kind as long as it does not exclude a legitimate part of our population from voting. I also don't feel that the relatively minor disorganized voter fraud that could occur is a significant threat to our current election process. This topic reminded me of the old stories about cooping gangs trying to sway the vote by getting people drunk or offering them money in return for their vote.
I'm not sure if that's a question, but I'll answer anyway. As far as I know she never bought any liquor the last 20 years of her life. She just never liked it, and my father didn't either after he got older, nor did most of their friends. My mother never flew on an airplane; my father only once, to attend a funeral, at least 30 years ago, and he said he'd never do it again. That generation of my family lived in a different world than most, I guess. LOL.
I guess the question some folks ask would be to ask who the cheaters are? Why do some people become so wrapped up in something that they are willing to face whatever comes in order to insure that their personal whims are met? Dunno. Ask the guy who cheats on his wife, or the person who plagiarizes someone else’s writing or the guy who deflates a football. Perhaps the person who looks over another’s shoulder to cheat on a test or even the identity thief who sells social security numbers to illegals. Maybe even the person who cheats at solitaire can come up with the appropriate answers for to some, if there is a possibility that if we know why then we can know how to solve it or can we? My answer: No. People want what they want and some will certainly go to any length to get it. There’s no other reason for cheating other than the fact that they can ergo they will. That’s just the facts and there’s no getting around it and there’s no solution to it. People cheat and whether it’s just one or a million and one, it’s wrong and there’s nothing we can do about it. All that said, we know that there are those who will fraudulently fill the ballot boxes just because they can and it is up to the powers that be to come up with ways to hinder those who would do it. Just like the proposed wall on our southern border will not stop all the illegals from coming into the country it will certainly curtail the majority, we need walls on our voting system so that the majority of cheaters are also curtailed. It is said that the number of fraudulent votes are so few that it doesn’t make a whole lot of difference but my attitude is that one is too many. If one bank gets robbed it doesn’t hurt the economy that much but it’s still robbery and it’s illegal. Thus far, the only suggestion that I have seen that makes sense is to have Voter I.D. Yes, some folks are indeed hampered via situation from getting one, but there are so many people who are willing to help them get one that there really isn’t much left of an excuse not to have one. Some would argue that “voting is a right” so nothing should be in place to hinder that process. I argue that owning a firearm is a right, but we have to have an identification card and a registration to own one. Whether it’s a special stamp on a driver’s license or a state issued I.D. There has to be something that separates those who are guaranteed the right to vote from those who would stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes just because.....they can.
I agree with the idea that one is too many but I also believe that perfection is too expensive. "Perfect is the enemy of good." - Voltaire IMO the place we should focus our efforts on are the ways in which the voting counts are rolled up from the local polling places to the state level and eventually to the federal level. I think that it would be much easier to finagle those large numbers of votes than it would be to have any measurable impact by individuals voting at the polling place. I hope that everyone gets out and votes at least once on November 6, 2018!
Great post, @Bobby Cole! I believe that the states who want Voter ID make the issuance of a simple photo ID free to any registered voter. That ID could also be used as a valid ID for other purposes. Although Alaska does not require PHOTO Id for voting, it does offer a state photo ID that can be used for other purposes such as flying on commercial aircraft, which is vital here. Most of these are issued to teenagers who don't drive, but they can be issued to anyone, including those whose driving privileges have been revoked or ho choose not to get a license for other reasons. You do have to go to the DMV with sufficient identification and to get your picture taken, but it is either free or very inexpensive. I think there are also services who will pick you up and transport you there if you cannot get yourself there, such as the blind or others who have no transportation.
Ah, you are back and doing well I assume. Now, to the question at hand. Why, when I am writing about those ballots which do not belong there for ANY party’s candidate, do you bring up a particular party? I do not recall writing republican nor democrat or even the socialist or communist party for that matter much less singled out a particular person. Why then, do you bring in a particular person? Did Trump bring in a bunch of illegals that I didn’t know about to vote for him? What’s your angle and do please, this time provide me with some proof instead of your usual complacent meanderings and baseless thought processes.
Call me an elitist if you will, but I think that someone who doesn't know how to go about getting identification probably isn't someone who should be deciding who represents us on important matters. Either way, I think it's fair to say that by not requiring identification to vote, the number of ineligible voters far exceeds the number of people who are eligible but can't figure out how to get an ID.