New York Limo That Crashed Was Owned By An F B I Informant.

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  1. Shirley Martin

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    It's a horrendous crash, we got it in the news here too..can you even imagine losing so many of your family in one fell swoop... ?

    Heartbreaking!

    if it happened to me please God it never does.. I think I would die right there on the spot from shock!!
     
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    But it does sound like the makings of a good conspiracy.
     
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    Haha...not for me...things usually are what they appear to be.
     
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    But if he worked with the CIA, someone could have sabotaged the car to get revenge.
     
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    I doubt it...that limo didn't even pass inspection...shouldn't have been in use.

    The one woman texted someone from the limo saying what a piece of crap it was.

    Driver wasn't licensed to drive a limo that big and that intersection was a known hotspot for accidents.

    Just a terrible but avoidable accident if rules had been followed....
     
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    The only thing that raises suspicions for me is the fact that EVERYONE in the limo died. That just seems unusual. I don't ever recall everyone in a large vehicle dying unless they went over a cliff or something. This was a large limo going 60 mph that hit a light pole killing everyone inside. In high school, I was riding in an old station wagon that was probably going over 60, flipped end-over-end six times according to witnesses, took out TWO utility poles, and no one inside (6 of us) was seriously injured. No seat belts in those days and we bounced around inside the car like balls. That was just an old stationwagon.
     
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    It does seem really strange that everyone apparently was killed at the scene, especially with such a large vehicle and so many passengers.
    Thus far, there does not seem to be anyone in the limo who might have been targeted, although one of the passengers was working at the senators office.
    Probably, if there was something else going on besides just a terrible accident, then the news will be coming out in the next few days. Here is the news article that talks about the passengers in the car.
    Except for the limo company owner, who is apparently overseas somewhere, I didn’t see anything that seemed suspicious with the passengers, at least at this point in time.

     
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    I heard that it had failed the vehicle inspection.
     
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    And then there is the fact that two pedestrians died too and the limo hit a car that thankfully no one was in. Did the limo go out of its path to hit the pedestrians and the parked car (thinking maybe people were in it too)...

    This does not sound or look like a simple accident to me.
     
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    The pedestrians were killed by the unoccupied car that was hit by the limo.

    If they were targeted...that sure is a round about way of doing it.

    It wasn't a simple accident...but I doubt it was a "hit".

    I don't think the passengers were wearing safety belts but I'm not sure.
     
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    Since everyone died...what really happened will be hard to know for sure. Maybe some to those passengers recorded things on their cell phones that will help solve what really happened. It's tragic no matter what the real story is.
     
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    One passenger texted an aunt I think 20 mins before the crash saying that the limo was in terrible shape or something similar.

    It's not hard to understand an accident there....there have been many there...trucks have been banned from driving that road.

    The residents called it an accident hotspot....the limo shouldn't even have been in service, failing an inspection.

    I don't see why an accident is so hard to believe....
     
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    Do limo's even have seat belts for the passengers? I wouldn't think so. Limo's, like this one, are noted as "party vehicles". Certain things aren't being told about what was going on inside the limo, where the passengers were.
     
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    I don't think there were seat belts but I don't think the passengers were drunk or anything...yet.

    It happened around 2 pm they were on their way to a surprise birthday party! Maybe they had a drink in the limo but not too many yet

    I'm just guessing here...

    Also, it's usually the drunk drivers or people that tend to survive crashes....supposedly because their relaxed??

    Again, just what Ive heard....might not be a fact at all.
     
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    The owner is a Pakistani citizen who had cooperated with the FBI on a terrorism case. He is back in Pakistan.
     
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    I just don't see what that has to do with the accident.
     
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    I know you don't, but facts are facts. One fact may or may not have anything to do with another, but you would never know unless you're willing to look at them.
     
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    Yes it's a fact as are all the other ones relating to that limo showing it should never have even been on the road.

    It was definitely an accident waiting to happen....in fact, after reading about it....it doesn't even surprise me...just saddens me because of the loss of lives.
     
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    So, here is an interesting little fact that is just coming out about the limo crash investigation. We already know that the owner of the limo company is in hiding and also wanted for murder in Pakistan, which the FBI apparently knew when they were paying him to spy for them.
    The FBI attorney just happened to be Monica McLean, who is the attorney friend of Christine Blasey Ford.
    What an interesting coincidence , right. ?

    https://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/953.pdf
     
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    But what does that even prove or mean?

    People are connected to people you wouldn't connect otherwise unless you're looking.

    My daughter's employment lawyer is Chris Panneta, son of Leon Panneta.

    Families are living a nightmare losing 4 daughter's, etc and people can't just believe it was an accident due to negligence.

    Reminds me of the Sandy Hook conspiracy which still makes me ill just thinking about it and Alex Jones.

    Why does every single thing have to be a conspiracy??
    Does it bring back the dead??

    I'm sure the government doesn't always tell the truth...both sides but not everything simple accident is a conspiracy....


    Time for me to take a break...:(
     
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    However, the FBI is not a tiny agency; it employs 35,000 people, so the connection is interesting. Clearly not conclusive, but it is interesting and worth filing away to see if anything else connects.
     
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