Mother Nature's Medicines

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  1. Jeff Elohim

    Jeff Elohim Very Well-Known Member
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    Great and Wonderful ! Yes !
    It is most important people find out these things while they can, if they can.
    If someone is not 'sure', or is weak/ at risk/ and wants to get better - instead of studying themselves what is required, or hit and miss, they can seek out a health giver who knows how to test the body for various deficiencies (regular ama/medicine rarely does the necessary tests) ....
    or imbalances,
    or toxins present (including things sprayed on and in food and drinks and tap water).

    By finding out what toxins are present, and what anti-oxidents, nutrients, anti-inflammatories (natural) are
    lacking or would be helpful,
    it can shorten recovery of health, or strengthening of health (body , mind, immune system, feeling better) ...
    from years to months of even days, depending on the requirements and God's Grace.
     
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    To compliment that approach also,
    I've met many people with (or diagnosed with) psoriasis , mild and worse, who cleared up after getting a shower filter (charcoal and vitamin c, in one, or in two filters) , and
    stopping drinking tap water. (drink clean bottled water without chlorine, chloramine, nafl, or drugs in it) .

    Also, previously , I think Adelle Davis and Maureen Salaman revealed, some problems originate in the gut,
    and when the gut is hydrated(if needed), and restored as needed, the problems go away,
    with me as quick as or less than three days ! (with all thanks and praise to our Father the Creator in heaven) .
     
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    Jeff ,

    I do have a shower with carbon filter since ever...and drinking water is essential for the body to run OK. About the rest....well, I am an Atheist. :)
     
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    Now about anti-oxidants:

    The "yerba mate" (grows in northern Argentina and southern Paraguay. Is a natural energy booster and is rich in anti0oxidants. Is green but has nothing to do with the green tea known worldwide. Can be drank / sipped hot or cold...and is cheap to buy..
     
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    I thank God for you and other atheist who have been more honest in online forum posts (and in person?) than
    religious people who have been pressured to continue in falsehoods that contribute to much harm.
    (because of false or wrong loyalties or false beliefs?) ....

    Without loyalties to money or wrong-direction religion, the honest doctors and scientists and government officials (if there are any) can and have reported the truth when they know it,
    instead of continuing 'politically' correct (for money and/or power/ and or prestige) enforcing completely false things (related to many many more things than just the virus theories) .....

    So I think honest atheists also have contributed more in truth and honesty than those of any or of no faith who are arm in arm with the 'party line' even when totally wrong.
     
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  6. Lon Tanner

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    I'm a big fan of Garlic/ Tumeric/Ginger/Cinnamon/Peppermint/All Curries Red Yellow Green
     
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    I do make use of some natural supplements but, to be honest, I haven't had the incentive or the energy to look into any of it very far. I have some books, but I've only scanned them. Using natural remedies and supplements isn't as simple as being able to assume that something is safe because it's natural, as a lot of natural things can kill you, and you should know what you're doing whenever you ingest something. This is true of pharmaceuticals, as well as natural supplements and remedies. Nevertheless, I do believe that most of our health problems could be effectively dealt with through natural means, but it requires research. You can't just trust someone because they're trying to sell you a product or assume that something is safe and useful because it's natural and you read about it on the Internet.
     
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    And,
    because of society,
    being wrong so often (capital letters and all haha - capitalism) ... oops, forget that :)
    doing the 'research'
    is not helped by today's medical protocol in most places, although some places, for money, are turning to natural helps along with toxic drug methods.

    Support groups, that have been around a while, with people who recovered from cncr, dbts, rthrts, sthma, hdachs, and so forth, may be a helpful source of information ,
    as well as books published before 1970 concerning what doctors (licensed doctors) used for healing of disease before 1950, that became ellegal (sic) after the laws passed by bigfarma lobbyists in the 50's outlawing everything that worked basically (anything not patentable, and not promoted by and approved by the drug makers) ....

    There's thousands, many thousands, of testimonies and even licensed doctors (there were over 100,000 for the past 7 decades, but that is a small drop in the bucket, a small percentage in the usa seeking to do what is right, legally) ....

    Information on the world wide web is mostly false, so test everything enough to know it is not quicksand.
     
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  9. Lon Tanner

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    There are many meals that are so good and have the vitamins that can help specific health conditions. Thai Food with curries, peppers,garlic,onions,coconut milk make an excellent anti inflamatory. It's also good for auto immune diseases.
     
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    I know is not the same but ginger-ale and ginger cookies are among my favorites.
     
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  11. Jeff Elohim

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    Totally ! There are many dietary plans, meals, foods, etc that are without any bad side effects (unless a person is allergic or some other hindrance like that) ,
    and that naturally build a healthy body and prevent troubles or help a body recover .....
    Some doctors and clinics for over a century have had great and wonderful results with a much much higher success rate than the ama methods have had.
    Some diet plans have had much better success for that matter, than medical methods !
    All proven for over a century,
    all subject to being used and/or tested 'to be sure' ... i.e. verified individually and for most people as well...
     
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    I realized that when I was diagnosed with cancer. I have had two different cancers now, and I asked my cancer specialist, my radiation doctor, and a couple of general practitioners if there was anything that I could do by way of diet, exercise, or supplementation that would reduce my chances of getting cancer again. Other than acknowledging that healthy food choices and exercises were generally a good idea, in all cases, they had no idea. In fact, the cancer specialist didn't even go that far. He said it was mostly a matter of genetics, and all we could do was wait for a diagnosis and treat it. That seemed as bogus as my former doctor's statement that everyone forty and over should be taking a statin drug. It didn't make sense on the face of it, but doctors are indeed trained to treat symptoms rather than to prevent disease.
     
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    This year before covid, there was a free meeting of heart specialists/doctors at a large hospital. It was 'for heart doctors only', but no one checked ids.......
    The speaker compared statin drugs, which are routinely given /prescribed by heart doctors,
    with another way to treat patients (or anyone) with heart troubles.
    I almost said "with another way to help patients", but that would have been wrong, totally.


    The heart doctors may or may not have individually known the statistics, but it was shown that statins must be given to 84 (or 87) pts to have one beneficial result. There is a medical/official term for that number = how many people must be given something to see one good result. This is apparently the known statistic in official medical journals, etc ...

    The other way to treat heart pts is by diet (specified in the conference).

    The results ? How many pts have to be given the diet treatment to have benefits/beneficial results ?

    Would it surprise you ? (probably)

    One.

    1 pt given diet for heart benefited .
    When 2 pts given the diet, 2 benefited.
    When 3 pts given the diet, 3 benefited.
    ....
    ...
    all the way to 84, or 87 -
    however many were given the diet for heart,
    the same number benefited.
    Unlike the drug usually given, that only benefits one pt out of 84 (or 87).

    (oh, btw, if you don't know the thing that helps eliminate cncr, pm or email me for literary, medical, and doctor references , if you want to know) ...
     
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    lordy no....most doctors frown on the use of herbal treatments...
    i dont have a doctor anyway
     
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    Well, my doc -after surgery- recommended me to take oil of primrose...
     
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