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Discussion in 'Places I Have Lived' started by Ken Anderson, Mar 9, 2015.
This was supposed to be our hottest day of the year, so I don't mind the rain.
It's storming here again. High winds, heavy rains, and thunder in the distance. Oh well, that's better than having the hottest day of summer. Ella may be unhappy with it, but I'm okay here.
We are making an inquiry on some land in Winterville Plantation, Maine. Since we've lived in Maine, the property has had a "for sale" sign on it, and we have watched the house disintegrate. At this point, it is doubtful that the house is salvageable and the "for sale" sign fell down a couple of years ago. The owner lives in Florida and is behind on her taxes, so I am thinking she would be interested in selling it cheap. I am pretty sure we'd have have demolish the house, and I'd much rather do that than try to repair it anyhow, since I am not in the mood for a fix it job.
The house is not something I want, but it comes with 10.5 acres of land, including waterfront along a river. Unlike our camp, it has utilities available and is close enough to a town that high-speed Internet is probably available there. If we were able to get it at a price that we can afford, we'd have the Amish build a small wood house for us, and place it on the foundation that the current house is on.
With a new building, we would be downsizing from the big house we're in, but we could set it up the way we want it, and use wood heat. It's close enough to our land that we could get out there much more easily, and we could get the wood from our own land.
The river connects a lake just to the south of it with another lake to the northeast, and with dozens of other lakes, including one in the town that our camp is in. If we were to get a boat, that would be enjoyable. I'm not going to get too excited because, for all I know, it's been for sale for so long because she wants a ridiculous amount of money for it.
It sounds like a great find, but if she goes down in the asking price don't you think others will want it also?
She's not actively trying to sell it at this point. The sign fell down years ago, and it's not listed with a realtor.
Wow, that is an awesome find, @Ken Anderson ! It almost makes me want to move back into someplace that gets snow, to have a place with river frontage and close to lakes besides. I LOVE fishing, and this would be a fisherman's paradise, it sounds like.
It is a whole lot closer to your property for sure, and if you have all of the utilities available to be connected again, plus good internet, that sounds like it would be an ideal situation for you and Michelle and the kitties.
What would you do with the house where you live now once you move ?
Ok, I get it now @Ken Anderson
We had the first shooting, so far as I am aware, that we've had since I've been in Millinocket. The only other homicide that I can think of was a shaken baby death, and the person responsible for that went on to shoot a couple of people a couple of years later, but not in Millinocket. I don't know if anyone is dead though, only that two people were shot.
They're being pretty quiet about it. The state police gave a press conference that said only that two adults had been transported to the Millinocket hospital, and later to a larger hospital. He wouldn't say, but it would pretty much have to be Eastern Maine Medical. They were asking anyone who knew anything about it to call them, so it didn't appear that they had a suspect immediately in mind. Also, the Millinocket Hospital was still on lock-down, whatever they meant by that.
I thought it was odd too, that no one from the Millinocket Police Department seems to be involved in it. According to the state police, they were the ones who responded to the shooting, which is stranger still due to the fact that it is unlikely that there was a state trooper closer than an hour or more away unless they just happened to be passing through on their way to somewhere else, since we seldom see the state police around here.
My doctor's nurse asked if I knew anything about it, so I guess they don't know anything either. I have since heard the names of the people who were transported but through gossip rather than any official sources. I didn't know them, but I think my wife knew who they were.
I read that it was a couple who filed for divorce that got shot....so sounds like a domestic issue to me.
And they survived an dthe suspect is still at large so maybe that why they had the hospital on lockdown.
I've seen a state police car go by the house a few times this morning, which we don't see much of here. The shooting took place on the other side of town, but the most direct route from there to the hospital would be past our house. The victims own a storage place here and, reportedly (gossip), they also grow marijuana. Both he and his wife were supposed to have been injured so unless a former spouse is involved, that wouldn't fit with the domestic angle.
Now that Maine has legalized marijuana, quite a few people are growing it. However, because it's still illegal as far as the feds are concerned, they tend not to filter the money through a bank account, and those who want to avoid the high state taxes do a cash-only business, so there is generally cash around. I know that marijuana growers have been robbed elsewhere in the state.
But it could end up being a domestic thing. I'm just hearing from people who call here.
I was thinking a love triangle issue...but maybe the marijuana ...I didn't know that before.
I just got your notice in my email , Ken, I think its because I lived in Maine...
yes its unusual for a shooting in that area where you live.. im sure its a domestic thing or had to do with drugs in one form or the other.. use to see a lot of cars from other states come into Maine and not the flat-landers during the peak summer season either.., you could tell were drug carriers. they drive at least 90 on the turnpikes up from Lowell, Mass. the drugs runs are very heavy from there up to Maine...
Is there an update?
I haven't talked to anyone since, so no.
The man who was shot has died, so it's a homicide. Still not much official out, but I understand they are investigating it as a home invasion rather than as a domestic attack, although there were rumors both ways. It still seems odd that the Millinocket PD seems to be not involved at all. While they often request assistance from the state police, they are usually involved. Of course, we haven't had a lot of murders to compare with but I know they were involved in baby shaking death.
My guess would be that there were drugs involved in some way. You wouldn't think so in a small town but drugs seem to be everywhere nowadays.
I think drugs have found their way into almost every crook and cranny of this country. Doesn't mean anything in your neck of the woods necessarily but most isolated shootings/killings around here are drug related.
Yes, indeed drugs are all over the place now days...but I had to laugh when I read about this couple in their 80's being caught with all this and saying they were delivering it to their family and friends as Christmas gifts!
There has been an arrest, and they are looking for a second identified suspect. Oddly, the suspects are from North Carolina. One of them is black and, if I had to guess, I'd say the other is probably Lumbee, given his name and where he lives. Both of them may be Lumbee, because many of the Lumbees look black. In fact, that was one of the arguments against their recognition as a Native American tribe, that they had more black blood than Indian.
I suggest that this is odd because, first of all, Millinocket isn't on the way to anywhere other than Baxter State Park, which is closed for most activities during the winter. We are about eighteen miles from the freeway, and the road doesn't continue on from there to lead anywhere else, other than Brownville, and going through Millinocket would not be the sensible route to Brownsville unless you're starting out in Millinocket. There's nothing in Brownville, anyhow.
Secondly, there are no black people in Millinocket so a couple of black people with North Carolina plates would certainly be recognized. Our only black resident moved when he lost his job at the grocery store. There are only a few thousand people in Millinocket and everyone knows everyone else, practically.
Third, as had occurred a few times when someone from out of town would rob a store in Millinocket and then try to escape, there are only three roads out of town, and none of them have any turn-offs. One of them ends at the park, and the gates are closed. Another is a 15-mile stretch to East Millinocket, passing right by the East Millinocket police station, and the third is 35-mile road to Brownville.
Despite the fact that everyone here has guns, we don't go around shooting them regularly so people notice gunshots. I'm surprised they weren't caught at East Millinocket, which would be the best bet for an escape. Probably the fact that we generally have only one cop on duty at a time allowed for that. I suppose they could have gotten through East Millinocket and to the Interstate before a bulletin was put out, but probably someone reported the black guys with North Carolina plates.
There still isn't much information available on it, but it is know that the victim grew marijuana and probably had cash on him. How that attracted someone from North Carolina, I don't know, unless he was trying to set something up with them.
I'm going to speculate that the murdered man's wife gave the police information leading to the arrest of the killers. As to the NC connection, I-95 is a main corridor for drug trafficking from south to north. I looked on the map and Maxton is not too far from I-95. I seem to remember reading that people in that area are involved in drug trafficking. I know that there are frequent drug busts along I-95.
Yes, there are several drug-related arrests, usually of out-of-state people along I-95 but Millinocket is nearly twenty miles from I-95 so they must have had something set up with the victim, who may even have been dealing in something other than marijuana. I'm not saying he was, because I don't know, but everyone here seems to know that he was growing marijuana; which, although still illegal federally, is no longer a state crime here in Maine.
Two Millinocket residents, both women, were arrested in Massachusetts a year or so and charged with possession of a large quantity of drugs, which there were presumably going to bring back.
It seems that one of the killers, the one they haven't caught yet, had killed someone in Robeson County, North Carolina earlier in December, which is probably what brought them to Maine. They had done some construction work on the guy's house who they later killed here, so they were familiar with whatever they were after.
That makes me think even more that it's drug related. If the murdered NC man was dealing drugs with the killer and double crossed him somehow, It could have been a revenge killing. The son must have known something was going on to call 911 and say his father had been kidnapped.