Medical Conspiracy

Discussion in 'Conspiracies & Paranormal' started by Martin Alonzo, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Very Well-Known Member
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    Medical conspiracy this is a topic that seems to rattle a lot of people. It seems that in the early part of the 19 century with the help of a few millionaires the medical system got changed to a drug based medicine and excluding all others. After spending more money than all other industrial countries together and claiming to have the best they rank 37 in the world.
    http://thepatientfactor.com/canadia...zations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
    It is a failing system but they are protecting themselves by making law and controlling knowledge.
    The open door between all the governing bodies and the drug companies is obvious like if you check the people who head the FDA were in the pharmacy industry and when they leave go right back.
    Example the FDA who controls what we can eat and they are supposed to control drugs but the head is from the drug companies’ bias probably.
    The FDA claims on their web site only a drug can use the words cure or treat this excludes vitamins minerals, and herbs. We know that vitamin C cures scurvy, and B vitamins cured Beri Beri and there is more.
    If a doctor using X could cure a certain disease [cancer] and has helped thousands he would be put in jail if he made a claim to cure. Because if it is anything but a drug he cannot use the word cure and soon as he used the word cure it becomes a drug and they will say it was not approved. This has happened too many doctors so they moved out of the country.
    Let us look at some of the failures of this system. The number one killer is supposedly heat failure. Congestive heart failure [CHF] five years after being diagnosed with CHF, only 50% of patients are still alive.
    According to the American Heart Association, CHF is a condition whereby your heart ‘becomes weakened’ and can no longer pump out all the blood that flows into it. CHF is the most common cause of hospitalization for people over age 65. It will kill more than 50,000 people this year, and it will cost the health care system more than $50 billion per year.
    The problem to this is the cause and [cure] was found by a Japanese naval surgeon 300 years ago.
    I have had persona experience with this my mother in law was diagnosis with CHF and high blood pressure in three months she return to the doctor healthy the doctor went into shock.
    Myocardium heart attacks these are where a person just drops dead usually athletes is also accounts for sudden infant death syndrome SIDS.
    The cause and cure have been known for 70 years and yet people are still dying.
    Even the WHO has recognised it the problem is it is not a drug deficiency.
    A-fib this is where the heart rate is erratic. Any electrician when a light flicker he would look for a bad connection. He knows more than a doctor. The doctor will concentrate on the heart killing heart muscle or kill the person and bring them back to life hoping this will fix the problem and lastly they put in a heart passer. This has been good for business. Because the doctors will not talk to a chiropractor to find out how the heart gets its signal through the spine. 90% of people with a-fib are shorter than they were when they were younger. The degeneration of the discs have now pinching the roots of the nerves, when they get pinched making the signal erratic.
     
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    Are you saying that heart failure can be cured by chiropractic treatment?
     
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  3. Martin Alonzo

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    No I am not saying that
    In the case of a-fib the medical approach has not address the possibility of a problem in the spine their attention is on the heart and not on the electrical system that allows the signal to go from the brain to the heart which regulates heart beat.
     
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    There are indications that it may help *WITH* the traditional drug treatment for certain (not all!) types of heart related issues, @Shirley Martin ... but never never instead of, of course. It's very important to research at reputable places and not the quacky quirky "naturalist" sites... that could be very dangerous if people try to diagnose and medicate themselves with "witchy potions" of herbs and leaves and roots and... who knows what for serious medical conditions? Eye of newt? :D :eek:

    Here's a little something about it from a site (oh, yes, I know the conspirators are gonna scream "but that's a government site!" but when the detractors get too "loud" I tune out because too much protest usually has an agenda with it. Hope this helps as a start:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15965412
     
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    Actually this is false, Martin. The medical community is trained to think of all those things and check into possibilities first. I'm sorry for whatever devastating clash you apparently had with a doctor at some point, but I do have a concern that passing certain types of misinformation around could be harmful to someone who needs medical attention and I'd hate to see that happen. Wouldn't you?

    If you would like to discuss this further, please let me know. The spine is very complex and is often the cause for all kinds of pain and discomfort. Patients are usually totally in shock thinking it's something else when it's just a misaligned spine or a spinal nerve pinch, etc. Even the wet behind the ears fresh off the med school wagon interns know these things and what to check for before terrorizing patients with words that would indicate a heart problem.
     
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    Mari do you know the difference between CHF and A-fib. They are different and treated differently. The chiropractor has nothing to do with CHF but a-fib yes. Because it is caused by pinching of the nerves at vertebrae 1,2,3,4
    If you happen to notice I use Pup med on a lot of my research.
     
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    Sure do, Sir. Thrilled to know you do as well. ;) Now what exactly does that have to do with what I said?
     
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    In the case of a-fib the medical approach has not address the possibility of a problem in the spine their attention is on the heart and not on the electrical system that allows the signal to go from the brain to the heart which regulates heart beat.
    You said this was false please informing me what is false. I have talked to people that have had that problem and the doctor never asked if they were shorter now than when they were young or sent them for x-rays checked out by a chiropractor because the spine is their specially. For years they called the chiropractors quacks and they still have no respect for anyone unless they are a drug pusher The medical says it is an irregular heart beat how to they come up with theories that have nothing to do with electrical signals.
    Medical theory
    Possible causes of atrial fibrillation include:
    • High blood pressure.
    • Heart attacks.
    • Coronary artery disease.
    • Abnormal heart valves.
    • Heart defects you're born with (congenital)
    • An overactive thyroid gland or other metabolic imbalance.
    • Exposure to stimulants, such as medications, caffeine, tobacco or alcohol.
    They seem to be clueless and call everyone else a quack.
     
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    The point I was making (perhaps if you'd re-read what I said, you'll realize this) is that they are trained to look for other things as well as scaring patients with immediate declarations of heart problems. The link I provided was to show Shirley that yes, it could be a possibility that chiropractic care could be beneficial with *certain kinds* of heart issues when used along with the patient's treatment. But I explained that earlier, too.

    Everyone's not out to get us. Some people are, but living a life looking over my shoulder to see who's trying to conspire against me, steal my money, or dope me up with unnecessary drugs isn't a way I can live.

    I think we need to be prudent but obsessing over conspiracies around every corner is very unhealthy. We miss out on a lot of life's beauty when we get to that point. I truly hope I never get to that point.
     
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    You might think I am against doctors and that is not true. I have two doctor friends who I get along with very well one is so disgusted at the medical system he when back and it teaching science in the high school. We have disgust many things in the medical field and he hates pushing drugs if something else works. The second is a good old family doctor and if I call him and say I have a problem he will show up at my door with what he thinks I might need and visits. I usually have to stop him and give him gas money because he asks for nothing. I also donated a large quantity of medical supplies to the local hospital when I sold my boat because in this country they don’t have much.
    What does bother me is when you ask what caused this chronic disease and they say we don’t know but we have a pill for it.
     
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    Here is a myth that the medical system has had for years.

    The doctors were told by their education that cholesterol was the cause of clogged arteries. This was backed up by the American Heart Association who took a 1.7 million bribe in the 1950s to recommend Crisco as a substitute for saturated fat. This was based on work done by Dr. Ansell Keys who done a falsified study which started out with twenty countries and no correlation could be found so he found 7 countries that he could hand pick to prove his point it was the seven country study later called the Mediterranean diet. Dr. Ansell Keys who was on the board of Proctor and Gamble and also a part of the American Heart Association. In his study he ignored all countries and groups that had the opposed facts like the American Eskimos whose diet is 75% saturated fat and have the lowest heart problems of anyone in the world and lowest cancer others are Maasai 66%. Rendille 63% and Tokelau 60% all have very low heart problems.

    50% of people with heart attacks have low or what they call normal cholesterol. The Eskimos have cholesterol level of 350 to 500.

    In 1971a paper published in Denmark showed that vegans had worst clogged arteries than meat eaters.

    One question is never asked why it is only in arteries not veins you only hear about arteriosclerosis not veiniosclerosis. The body is intelligent and a hole in an artery is life threatening but in most veins it is not. When you have damage in the artery and the walls get weaken the body needs a band aid and it uses what it has is cholesterol. Just in the last few months the FDA in 2014 has admitted that the problem is damaged to the artery wall and that cholesterol is not the cause. With tunnel vision it is easy to blame the band aid for the cut as every time you see a band aid there is a cut.

    What is Crisco? Well it was made as a submarine diesel lubricant made by a German chemist later sold to Proctor and Gamble to make candles and soap.

    There is the same amount of cholesterol in the veins as in the arteries but the veins don’t get plugged with cholesterol this is a fact ignored.

    What has this paranoia with cholesterol done fist what they used to replace lard, butter was margarine and oils all oxidise and become free radicals and trans fats who are now recognise as the problem with heart disease by the FDA in 2015 they are banning trans fats The FDA is February 2012 sent out a notice telling all doctor of increased warnings about statin causing dementia, diabetes, muscle, and problem with liver. They say statins will prevent heart attack but by how much if in 5 years it increases only one week and the bad effects of statin takes two months of life expectations due to side effects like dying from dementia or diabetes or liver failure but you did not die of a heart attack.

    Is there any cholesterol deficiency diseases? Let us check what cholesterol does in the body

    All sex hormones are made from cholesterol has there been an increase in erectile dysfunction or menopause problems?

    The myelin of the brain affected by Alzheimer is 100% cholesterol if you do not have t you can fix anything.

    Cholesterol in the skin exposed to sun light becomes vitamin D which they now claim there is a deficiency and it is a powerful part of the immune system. Also needed for many functions in the body.

    Cholesterol is so important that you liver makes it but not enough so you need to take some in your diet.

    Cholesterol is a large clumsy molecule and is hard to digest so in the best of times if anyone has a digestive problem they might not be getting enough.

    Dr Kummerow a scientist has been proving for 50 years cholesterol is not the cause of plugged arteries and his research is what the FDA used to ban trans fats.



    Other doctors /researchers like Uffe Ravnskov completely destroyed the premise that the medical system has on cholesterol.

    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol/

    Even another doctor/ researcher come forward Dr Malcolm Kendrick who has pored over the research studies that have been done

    https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/



    Another Dr. Glidden cholesterol myth



    Eight doctors talk about the myth of cholesterol and saturated fat.



    The list of doctors now speaking out is getting larger every day and even the FDA is now speaking out as well.

    The tipping point of knowledge is getting closer.
     
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  13. Yvonne Smith

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    I have no way of knowing for sure; but I do think that the a-fib in my heart may have been the result of a terrible car accident that i was in.
    I was driving a tiny Yugo (think Ford Escort maybe) and hit by a drunken driver in a 3/4 ton truck that was going over 100+mph when he rear-ended me. The truck was locked onto my car, and pushed me over a steep embankment, and rolled several times going down, both sideways and headfirst. I landed upside down , crushed underneath the truck.
    I should never have survived, let alone been able to crawl out of the smashed vehicle and walk away from the accident.
    I give all credit for my survival to a loving God who protected me through the accident.

    However, it was after that , that I began to have the a-fib episodes, and over the years, they happened more often, until they finally became a permanent thing, and caused the heart failure.
    Possibly the chiropractic treatment that I was getting after the accident helped to stop the a-fib from happening, and once I was no longer getting that taken care of , then it worsened.
    In any case, by the time they operated, I don't think that any kind of medication, or chiropractic would have changed anything at that point.
    The operation was a last resort; but it worked, and I am grateful that I had a doctor that sent me for that treatment.
     
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