Media's Bias And Bed Fellows

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    Well gosh I wonder why nobody believes media anymore. When Shepard Smith does his spiel on nobody survives a CAT-5 hurricane, and everybody is dead, they need a miracle. Kind of hard to do when everybody is dead. Me and Pip at the time 11 yrs.old survived Hurricane Andrew CAT-5 with the eye of it right over us. We were laughing at Smith, Pip saying this was cartoon time, Funny Ha Ha. I'm tired of the debates, and political scene.:rolleyes:
     
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    @Marilyn Pahl
    Be cautious about saying "nobody believes media anymore, Marilyn. Though it was long ago, after the various Clinton revelations involving the Whitewater Property being used as a drop-off point for South American drug shipments, two teen-aged boys who witnessed planes dropping something to the ground there, they being found dead after "falling asleep on the RR tracks, the number of people associated with the Clinton's political residency in Arkansas who died under dubious circumstances, the number of others closely associated with the Clintons who "turned up dead, ......I swore that no way in hell could the man be re-elected. Yet, amazingly, he was. Fishy? God-damned right, it was. To this day, I still don't believe it. Those events forever swayed my lifelong belief in the "American Way" as having been fictitious.

    He WAS re-elected.
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    I'm laughing but I honestly believe that there are so many people that have chosen to believe in false idols and even literally worship them I believe this is at the root of the insanity.
     
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    I think people only listen half and maybe believe in a fourth of this media tripe and drama dives reporters that do such stupid spiels. I've heard this more then once, "The blame of all that's wrong is with Trump, "during his presidency." He is only a candidate and to my knowledge hasn't become president YET. Do they even listen to themselves? And I'm still upset of what happen to Victor Thorn that wasn't mention on the big 3 or 5 news stations. I found that out reading the Daily Beast. He was murdered because of his books about the Clintons especially his book the "Clinton Trilogy. (Very good read and explains what you have in your post). " Victor went out and committed suicide when his new book was coming out. He was murdered:)
     
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    Thank you for bringing up Victor Marilyn. I want to delve into this murder (as I too believe it to be).
     
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    I read in an article about Victor Thorn mentioning, "If I'm dead, it's because I was murdered." that was some time ago. Another one was the infamous Barnaby Jack from New Zealand who was a "White Hat Hacker." He was to speak at a convention in Las Vegas (2012) and was found dead in his girlfriend's San Francisco apartment, only a week before his speech. It was said, he did an overdose on drugs, but many of us say it was conspiracy. Getting back to Victor Thorn I'd start for research, with the "Clinton Trilogy" book. It is the most detailed book about the Clinton's from the Arkansas days, governor days, all the scandals, how they manipulated so many people.:)
     
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    I figure if that was all lies, these books that are telling of the Clinton years, as well as obama's "reign" would have had the author's socks sued off if they were lies! I don't recall anything about denial, or suing these authors. God knows the wealthy Clintons, and Obamas have the money to sue. Maybe they are just spending to pay off hit-men:(
     
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    To the Clintons life is cheap. Even though I do my rant about the media we have seen just how cheap people's lives are. I think of my grandfather (which I didn't know, died when mom was 12 yrs). I understood he was a kind and loving husband and father. He would flip out with our modern day communication. His quote was, "Believe everything you see, and only half of what you read and hear."The things Victor T. wrote about were "Holocaust Hoax" and others.It hit me hard this is personal opinion, and cuts to the core.But you have to be objective. Just like reading something Carl Marx wrote doesn't mean I'm going to be a communist. So he was anti semitic and anti Clinton. He did his research and one of our finest writers of today with 50 books in a short time of his life. RIP Victor Thorn :)
     
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    A wise man for sure. This started way back didn't it, it's just gotten so much worse. Well, there are a lot more folks fighting now, joining up:) We can be happy about that:)
     
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    These are volumes that make up the Clinton Trilogy:
    Hillary (and Bill): The Sex Volume
    Hillary (and Bill) The Drug Volume: Part Two of the Clinton Trilogy
    Hillary (and Bill) The Murder Volume: Part Three of the Clinton Trilogy
    Victor Thorn was an investigative writer and researcher. His latest book is "The Clinton' War On Women":)
     
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    I worry about all that are fighting to get the truth out, even putting my opinions down on here or facebook is a little scarey, but I am glad to be in the fight for what is right. Tired of standing by thinking "oh, someone else will handle it".

    Like I said, those books would not be making the New York Best Seller lists if they were lies, or at the very least, the authors would be getting sued if there was proof the authors/info was false!

    I think much of that will be covered in the books I'm reading, but I'm like a sponge and want to read everything now. I used to hate reading!!
     
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    They are luck it got out in print and they did not say ahead of time what they were going to do or they might end up on the dead list.
     
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    reminds me how Trump hit the nail on the head when he talked about obummer and killary letting others know when and where they are going to bomb, I think it was something like that. Anyway, that's pure stupidity, and asking for our military to walk into a death-trap which I'll tell you makes me want to "end" this government as is, and who's running it.

    Also, don't make promises or threats unless you WILL follow through, otherwise, you are a liar as far as I'm concerned. Just like telling your child if they do that, you are going to ground them or whatever, then you don't follow through. What does the child do then? They do the same bad-behaviour.
     
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    @Marilyn Pahl
    Quite a number of folks died rather "prematurely" before "spilling their guts", because they mentioned their fears to someone on the "inside". Included two teen-aged boys. What a TRAVESTY of justice that such people remain in the public eye as "staunch and good"!
    Frank
     
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    I truly agree with you Frank.....
     
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    @Marilyn Pahl
    And I truly appreciate that, Marilyn! And I truly agree that I believe you completely agree with me. See, how the pay on words works out? What's my point? A legal one, which I will introduce completely out of thread context, otherwise I'll forget it!

    Concealed Carry of a Firearm (CCF) laws have been worded in ways very misleadingly. For example, some are worded, ".......the State may issue a Permit.......", which in essence means, THEY have the choice of issuing or not. The CORRECT wording must be, ......."the State will issue a permit........"

    See the difference? Just when we think the Legislators are finally making a concession in OUR favor, they may really be not doing so.
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    Clinton has been running an almost entirely negative campaign yet her campaign is never described that way, while every time Trump so much as sends out a tweet, it is referred to as a "tweet storm," and every time he says anything negative about anyone, we hear that he is going off on someone, the idea being to get people to believe that Trump is unstable while (when Clinton does that) she is simply giving information.
     
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    In line with this same comment, the news lead referring to the New York Times hit piece on Trump referred to Trump's war with the New York Times, the obvious inference being that he had decided to fight with the newspaper, rather than that he was defending himself over an unsubstantiated story published by the Times. No, the press wants us to believe that Trump is unstable and likely to go off on anyone at any time. According to the press, Hillary is never negative. When she attacks Trump, she is merely giving information apparently, but when Trump even defends himself, he is at war with someone, or on a tirade, or some other such nonsense.

    By the way, we know from the emails that Hillary has referred to Muslims as "sand niggers" which seems to be a common phrase used by her staff and others in the DNC. She commented that Muslims, blacks and Romanies almost never succeed in life, regardless of the situation, and talked about how the Japanese, the Chinese, and others are able to adapt but that the blacks, Muslims and Romanies never succeed. What do you think the media would do if Trump had referred to Middle Easterners as "sand niggers" and said that they, along with the blacks and Romanies, are either lazy or stupid because they are never able to accomplish anything? Yet because it comes from Hillary, I haven't seen or heard one word from the mainstream press, including Fox.
     
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    It looks like the story about the woman who was groped by Donald Trump thirty years ago, that was published in the New York Times, is fake, even the words that were used to tell it are. I am going to say that this seems credible to me while the NYT story had bogus written all over it from the start. Not that we'll see a retraction, however, at least not before election day.

    The Donald Trump story, as told by the NYT, is taken from a Velvet Underground song. This isn't a joke. That woman's story was taken from an old Velvet Underground song.

    "I know what you mean. My God, he was like an
    octopus. Hands all over the place.

     
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    The MSM is so far in the bag for Hillary I would not even trust their weather forecast.
     
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