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  1. Bobby Cole

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    Old dogs can indeed learn new tricks but there are those times when this old dog doesn't appreciate the learning process.

    The new IOS 11. whatever made a few changes to my IPad that I really didn't research well enough before I started re-using the dern thing after the update process was completed.

    One of the changes included the virtual keyboard's space bar. Yup, the space bar.
    Now, what could they possibly do to a space bar that would tick a person off? Simple: Take some young techies suggestion and divide the bar so that the space part occupies 2/3 of the key and a brand new "undo" button takes up the other 1/3 of the key.

    Now, the aggravating part is that the *undo* thingy (tech word) doesn't appear all of the time but just when you do not want it there and think you are hitting the space bar, when suddenly the last sentence or so disappears.
    Yes, I think Siri is finally getting back at me in terrible fashion in that she waits until I have produced a particularly good piece of wit or wisdom and suddenly, at the behest of a thumb going for the space bar, my content goes to the wit and wisdom file cabinet of the universe never to be retrieved by anyone but some galactic reprobate invented by Apple, namely Siri.

    I have no proof of the conspiracy but just in case my theory is correct, I wrote this on the Dell computer loaded up with another pain in the tail, Windows 10.
     
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    I haven't updated yet but my daughter warned me just recently about the keyboard, forget what she was complaining about but said it took her awhile to undo the way it was.
     
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    Done the 11 update on our iPhones and haven't really had any problems. In fact, just done a 11.1 update on the phone and, so far, no problems. As for Windows 10, I love it. Even Excel and Word are different than they were before, but I've got use to the difference.

    Now, to be remembered, I am the "techy" type person between wife and I.

    Unfortunately, too many "updated" things can get us older folks upset and, to me, that's understandable, but..........
     
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    It might just apply to the IPad. When I bring up the keyboard the space bar is normal. It is just when I start getting into a sentence that the anomaly appears and just at a crucial time when I really do not wish to have an *undo* button attached to the space bar. Or, it could be just what I conceive to be the real truth: Siri has it out for me.

    As far as windows goes, I have been using it since 3.1 and really believe that the best OS was '97 and '98. But, that is when 100 megs was a top of the line computer and doubtful that a gig would ever happen do to the heat factor. And in case the question ever comes up, I still love the old floppies.........! It makes it seem more technical when ya have boxes and boxes of floppy disks all over the place.
     
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    My daughter just mentioned it being on her iPad @Bobby Cole. Not a big deal but just have to find what to check or uncheck to get the keyboard the way you like it....if you like it the way the update changed it then you don't have to do anything.

    I get used to something being a certain way and I don't like when they change it but if it can't be reversed I eventually get used to the new way.

    Ive been getting prompts to update, maybe I'll do it today. :)
     
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    Sweet.......
     
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    Yea, Bobby, guess that certain update doesn't go with iPhones.

    I had to get use to Windows 10, but did it. I love Windows 10 Photo Software.

    As far as floppy discs go, just like the old cassette tapes, the tape could get caught inside and then a real mess happened. As for me, I'll take USB Flash Drive anytime over a floppy disc.
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh , I really don't think being tech savvy has to do with our age. If we're on the internet it becomes a necessity.

    I live alone so I have to kind of know what I'm doing to a degree.
     
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    Will we ever agree on something?:D

    But, there are things I know about computers, and my wife will vouch for this, that I am the "techy" type. Actually, I entirely set up our desktop with software and everything. A lot of times, people who live by themselves need some type of help from a business or family member, if they aren't the "techy" type.
     
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    I set my computer up when I got it. All you have to do is follow directions.
     
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    Desktop or iPad? I had to put in all of our software, at least the ones that Windows 10 would accept.

    There are folks our age that just aren't that "techy", like us. And, some folks have an extremely hard time following directions. In fact, sometimes even me.
     
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    My desktop. Who else would do if not me??
     
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    Neighbor or friend. Not necessarily do it, but help. But, you done it yourself...
     
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    No neighbor or friend close enough that I'd feel comfortable asking. Not doing it ever again though since I don't even use it and iPads are easy.
     
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    My wife hadn't noticed it but yes, it is there. Apparently it was added for the benefit of one-handed typists. I'll bet there's an option to change that but since I don't have an iPad, I don't know what it will be. If my wife finds something, I'll let you know.
     
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    A simple USB thumb drive? If there are not a plethora of knobs and switches, a bunch of shiny stuff and ambiguous names that might describe all of the knobs, switches and shiny stuff.......it isn't techy enough.
    If there are no cords, flashy lights and 10,000 pages of directions that no one but smart ladies read, it isn't techy enough.
    If there are no filing cabinets filled with filing boxes of thousands of unused and unwanted discs of all shapes and sizes, it isn't tech enough.

    But, when they impose an undo button where the space bar used to be, that's TOO much tech and not enough thought. Put the dern UNDO button next to the DELETE or backspace button and all would be well.
     
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    Since I have an external booth keyboard case for my iPad, I seldom have to use the virtual keyboard, so this has not been an issue for me. Bobby has one of those bluetooth keyboards also; but for whatever reason, he doesn’t usually use it.
    I guess because the iPad Air is more portable without it.
    I always use mine right in the same place (on my lap in my recliner); so carrying around the ipad is not a necessity for me. Besides, I have that little iPad Mini that I can use (with or without its keyboard case) and I use that if I need to pack around an iPad. The iPad model that I have is the largest iPad Pro that Apple makes, so with the keyboard, it is about like having a 13” laptop.
     
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    I’ve updated to IOS 11.1 as well, but like @Yvonne Smith, I too use an external keyboard. Mine is a Logitech, which I’ve been using for more than two years, so I’ve not had to deal with an undo button.

    What aggravated me is the changes it did to my calendar. I use to be able to just glance at the monthly view, and I could read the little notes I placed in there for my reminders. Now, other than the daily numbers, all I see is a little dot indicating that there is information on that page which I now have to open. I’ve tried to see if there is a way to go back to the old view, but this tech zombie “ain’t getten no where”. :oops: :mad:
     
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    Are you looking on your iPad or your phone, @Ina I. Wonder ? I just get dots on the phone, but I still have the color-coordinated reminders in the calendar on the iPad.
    I will look at the calendar and see if I can find out what has happened. Mine is the same as it was before.
     
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    It’s the one on my iPad. Mine was like yours, until the up date before 11.1.
     
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    For heaven's sake, if you have the same relationship with SIRI as I, do not ask for any help because it will only get worse.
    As it is, Yvonne has taken a particular liking to the guy (she installed a man's voice) and he does whatever she asks him to do. Now he's even on her new watch and IPhone and I swear, if I catch him in the bedroom there will be some 'splaining to do Lucy!
     
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    Now I have this picture in my head of @Yvonne Smith giggling behind her hand at both of us. She would do that, now wouldn’t she? I can hear a diabolical laugh coming from her in my mind. So look out @Bobby Cole, she is closer to you than I. But a heads up would be appreciated. :oops: :rolleyes: :confused:
     
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    Too funny!! :)
     
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