L. A. Homeless

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  1. Ed Wilson

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    I think homelessness is one sign of cultural collapse with the loss of family structure in a lot of cases. You have absentee fathers resulting in no role model to look up to and to straighten your ass out when needed and to teach personal responsibility. It sends a lot of young people adrift trying to find the way themselves but end up with drugs and the wrong crowd. Soon it's a life style. It's not the government's responsibility and it doesn't take a village.

    A possible avenue of improvement in my mind is to re-introduce the military draft and give some a foundation in discipline and an ordered life before they get too far out of hand.
     
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    I’ve preached the draft thing for years particularly for young men who haven’t had a good balanced regimen of a work ethic, realization of responsibility and accountability and above all, self respect.
    The problem with the concept is that a large portion of the homeless are indeed military trained veterans.

    The object of appreciation might be that a large force of rescue missions currently have live in programs that range from 6 months to 2 years and are highly successful but there are only so many missions and sadly, because nearly all of them are faith based, many people do not wish to enter.
    The two main missions in Los Angeles for example each had a budget [as of nearly 20 years ago when I was there] of 19 -21 million bucks a year with the programs eating much of that budget up.

    Now, here’s the other problem. If a person has an alcohol or drug problem and enters into a program it is easy to get straight. Being alcohol and drug free is easy in a controlled environment. If that person hasn’t totally recognized what the problem is then once they hit the street again, many will go downhill and quick. Just getting cleaned up and putting on some weight and clean clothes isn’t the answer.
    The change has to come within a person and no amount of a controlled environment is going to help out unless that person can honestly feel, see and want that change.

    If the states would simply pick up the challenge and copy some of the programs that are already successfully helping those who want it, I think the homeless issue would drop dramatically.
    I mean, which is better: Spend 30-40 million on overdosed individuals, cleaning the streets, drug and drunk tanks, court and jail time etc or providing an avenue whereby the homeless have a way out?

    Of course, I also believe the cities need to ramp up the vagrancy laws which will either move people out of the city or make them realize that they need a place where they can seek help.
     
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  3. Frank Sanoica

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    I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas!

    @Ed Wilson

    IMO, "drugs" are blamed far too often and far too deeply for society's ills, especially those of the young. Impressions ingrained early during the informative learning period, perhaps age 4 through 9 or so, guide the developing youngster to make his/her own decisions in life. Great numbers of young adults ignore "peer pressure" where it is obviously negative to their existence. As a young adult I hung out with some nasty young guys, just as I was, a few smoked, most did not, and drugs (other than alcohol) were never mentioned. We expended our excess energy playing baseball endlessly. We heard about drug use by fellow students, but paid it scant attention.

    I cannot explain why we were different. But certainly there still exist kids with similar outlooks to ours.

    Frank
     
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    Merry Christmas to you, too, Frank.
     
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    Homeless people have become familiar faces in BC's suburbs and cities. However, homelessness is also a problem in small, rural communities. While the most visible homeless are those living on the streets, many more people live in poor-quality housing and are at risk of homelessness.

    People used to think that homelessness only affected a marginalized group of high-risk people. Since the 1980s this has changed: the homeless population has become more and more diverse. Rising inflation, rents and unemployment have caused many more people to become at risk for homelessness. Additionally, reduced eligibility for social assistance has made it harder for people to get benefits. Cutbacks in government housing programs and a reduced supply of low-cost housing meant there was less help for people living in unstable housing.
     
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    Vancouver BC is the most expensive place to live in North America homelessness is only a paycheck away for many.
     
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    Some looser set a homeless lady's blanket on fire wile she was asleep on the sidewalk
     
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    Some looser set a homeless lady's blanket on fire while she was asleep on the sidewalk.
     
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    lots of homeless chose cardboard boxes to shelters because they felt safer. With drug addicts and criminals thrown in with children and abused women handicapped,...
    This is a good time to step up and help. Lots of time being out of work? Volunteer!
     
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    We have Covid restriction in Vancouver the shelter are at minimum staff the homelees situation is out of control .. google BC Vancouver East Side
     
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  11. Frank Sanoica

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    @Herb Durant

    While we lived in Phoenix, AZ, a year-round warm place, we had large numbers of "migratory homeless". Many spent the winters there, but left to return to cooler areas for the summer. I heard this from a guy who spent summers in Denver. How they managed their travel affairs, I have no idea.

    Frank
     
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    Apparently this is not enough money there are 50 people living in this city park
    Rapid Housing Initiative funds will be combined with mayor's $30M emergency housing initiative
     
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