Is It Possible To Be Christian And Pro-choice At The Same Time?

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    God will forgive us anything but in order to be forgiven, we have to acknowledge that we have been wrong, I think. And it probably helps if we aren't vowing to do the same thing again.
     
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  2. Patsy Faye

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    Well that's right - no good going through this torture if I'm planning on doing the same mistake again
    Although I have known a few church goers that have their confession thinking the slate is wiped clean
    only to go and make another batch of sins to be confessed :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Denise Happyfeet

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    There's the nail on the head Ken, it's whether or not people decide/choose to believe if something is wrong or right. And yes, along with asking for forgiveness, repent I think comes first in the bible "repent and be saved" I think it says. Things is, when people "create" their own ideas of God, they can decide anything is ok that they themselves "feel" or "believe". How many times have we heard it said "I'm sorry" but with no repentance (changing the behaviour), I don't see the apology being valid.
     
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    I agree Patsy, but it sure was "someone's" great idea! I think that would be great, if only it were true. I can't believe it myself.
     
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  5. Joe Riley

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    The Bible tells us that each of us will be judged individually, and that we are not to judge one another. We are to examine our own life, in the light of God's word, and where we see sin, we are to confess it and repent, which means making a behavioral u-turn. Nothing should distract us from this self-examination. There is no sin that cannot be forgiven by God.
     
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    I have to toss this in here: are you and others here aware that the second part of your first statement has become a 'trend' in the last couple of years to cover all sorts of horrible behaviors and crimes- even crimes-against-persons?
    One of the hairiest examples: a woman abused a child, the child died; as there was no way her attorney could convince anyone that she was not guilty of the crime she was accused of, her closing argument to the jury was that they could not convict her because 'only you who is without sin may cast the first stone.'

    It's become quite a way to manipulate people. And I've even read comments where Christians say they should not serve on juries for that specific reason- that they 'cannot judge others.'
     
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    I've talked in-person that have been so afraid the make an apology. So afraid that they are going to somehow vanish if they admit they were wrong. Or all their focus is on what the other "may" have done to them. I've never spoken to anyone that made an apology, no expectations on the other to apologize back, that haven't felt a ton of brick unloaded from their backs. The bible also says to take the splinter out of your own eye, before you try to point out one in someone else's eye.
     
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    The Bible also tells us that we will be judged. I think what these verses are warning us of is that if we create a harsher standard by which we use to judge others, we will also be held to that standard.
     
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    I agree, Ken, the Lord's Prayer also tells us that we will be forgiven, as we have forgiven.
     
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    That sounds like the most sensible and accurate approach.
     
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    The measure of a society is how they treat their most vulnerable.
     
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