I Need A Tree, Or Maybe Not

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  1. Bobby Cole

    Bobby Cole Very Well-Known Member
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    On this one, I might need some help. I rarely ask for it, because normally I can pretty much figure things out on my own by doing the research. But, this time there doesn't seem to be any resourses by which I can refer.

    This morning I heard on the radio that some kind of tree was being blamed for global warming! I didn't hear what kind of tree but they were saying that if you have one it needs to be cut down. Note: FOX news did report on Sept. 7, 1992 that some trees did indeed cause global warming but I still cannot find out what kind of tree they were referring to.

    The reasoning didn't sound very scientific but it went something like this: We know that trees need CO2 in order to survive but for the trouble give us oxygen so we can survive and the cycle goes on. But, for whatever reason this particular tree also seems to flatulate and emits large amounts of methane. I have never equated our bovine critters with bark covered cellulose but apparently there is now a tie between the two and both are heavily responsible for global warming.
    Note: If this is proven a sane proof to the Gore created earthly critical problem and Internet inventor, then why do we not stop harvesting beans, cabbage, brocolli and other products which produce flatulations in humans? I digress.

    Now, back to the problem at hand. I have a very sound reason for needing the name to whatever tree it is that is causing such a magnitudinal amount of warmth in the atmosphere. While I am sitting here at my front door in good old Alabama, a SOUTHERN state, watching the snow coming down and the temps dropping to below freezing, I want to plant about a half a dozen of the doggone earth warmers in my front yard.
    I might even get a couple of cows and chickens along with planting soy and cabbage for the backyard. I figure that with all of that combined there should be enough causation for warmth to turn my little place on earth a veritable sauna.
     
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    DERN, dern and double dern!!! I almost didn't put a "like" on ya Ike but whether or not I like your answer you did do the homework I asked for.
    There are so many of God's toothpicks (pine trees) growing next to our piece of earth that I had to upgrade the lawnmower to something that could eat pine cones whilst sucking up pine needles. They are so tall that if there is a fair wind blowing from the south following a good rain I sweat the chance they might come down on the house.
    Or, if it gets cold enough then the sap will freeze and I wind up with a limb or two on the roof anyway.

    Well then, I guess it's back to the drawing board. Perhaps I may need to rethink how much brocolli and cabbage to plant along with how big my air purification system is for the house. Dunno.
     
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    Check and see what trees are growing on Mars because they have worst global warming there poles are melting faster than ours so don’t plant the same trees they have
     
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    Uh oh, I just had a thought. If our present resident in the White House believes only part of this somewhat fragmented news, then I am very sure he might come out with a new initiative to cure global warming.
    Namely, the de-forestation of all of our public lands from Yosimite to the swamps of Plantation.

    Trying to think of any good at all, I can see treeless federal reserve lands but the price of toilet paper and toothpicks will go down. Climate change will remain changing as it has for the last few thousand years.

    Gosh, then the neighborhoods surrounding the parks can start charging for shade and Obama will also be happy to charge income taxes on the people who set up coolade and shade stands in their individual yards and donate an additional billion or so to the U.N. global warming initiative while waiting for Bernie to use the same cash to put 2 or 3 hundred people through a collective college who's majors are in the liberal arts. (long enough sentence?)

    Wow, I'm starting to think like Bernie now. Time for a lobotomy.
     
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    Global warming is much more complex than a tree causing it, it's got to do with many different issues. The Earth's orbit, the Earth's age and the Earth's condition like north and south poles moving has to do with weather and global warming. Did you see the thread about the mini Ice Age coming in about a decade or so? Here is an article about global warming from NASA.
     
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    Global warming is a political fiction designed to give more power to global governments. It works only because of a dumbed down society willing to surrender their own brains to experts in the employ of the government. As long as people are willing to believe, unquestionably, whatever garbage they are fed, and unwilling to exercise their own brains, we are at their mercy.
     
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    http://calwatchdog.com/2011/07/28/nasa-exposed-global-warming-hoax/

    Okay, let's go tit-for-tat.
    To begin, please do forgive the confusion for I meant only to write a bit of satire based on how far some folks out there will go in their attempts to substantiate a global warming THEORY.
    If things do get difficult in base form understanding of any proclamation regarding ANY subject I first look toward empirical data, which in this particular case there is none to date in the heading of causation toward climate change.

    Personal speculation dependant upon a political stance is superfluous knowledge because it panders to the political individuals that will profit from it, I.e. Al Gore, Obama, and most of the leadership in the U.N.
    Science is science and is dependant upon the necessary steps needed in order to form a subjective and qualitative agreement as to the outcome of experimentation.
    Politics is dependant upon fear and it is fear that politicians use to gain trust in order to make the ambiguous authoritative (while in the background holding onto an objective opinion) and at the same time haul in the big bucks.

    In other words, unless a person is making bucks off of fear mongering, global warming is a non-issue. In my not so humble opinion of course.
     
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    That's some mighty big words, Bobby Cole. :D
     
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    This is the first time I've heard that a tree contributes to global warming. I'd say that is incredible to believe because as per our general science in grade school, plants and trees breath in carbon dioxide and breath out oxygen, the direct opposite of animals who inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. But whatever that plant is, I think it needs further studies by agriculturists and environmentalists before declaring a judgment.
     
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    Those "studies" have already been performed but there are varying experiments which add to and subtract from the initial studies. For instance, it has long been known that ANY protein cell in an anaerobic atmosphere is subject to bacteria which feed on it and consequently emit methane.

    At one time it was thought that this anaerobic bacteria was the ONLY bacteria which offered up the byproduct of methane until recently when the waters off of the Hawaiian Islands were tested.
    Because the waters are phosphorus rich, the bacteria which feed on the plankton and seaweed found in those same waters were found to discharge methane also.

    Note: Environmentalists are not necessarily scientists and a lot of them that are get threatened with their grants being pulled if they do not agree with whatever government suppositions are popular at the time.

    As a GIANT side note: Everyone must now stop taking hot showers which cause steam. Water vapor makes up nearly 60% for the causation of the greenhouse effect in an atmosphere. Which, might be another reason for cutting down trees if one were to be so inclined and worried about climate change.
    On a nice warm day, a plant takes in a Donaldistic (HUGE) amount of water and disperses it in the form of water vapor which also contributes to the theoretical future heat wave.
     
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    First, one must picture the likes of Sheriff Matt Dillon. He looks at you, bows his head slightly whilst touching the brim of his cowboy hat with forefinger and thumb and says, "There are times in a man's life when he just can't mince words." Then, his donaldesque figure turns around and starts walking down the dusty road with his Spurs jingling he finishes with, "He has to say just exactly what's on his mind."
     
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    Ah yes Joe, a nice bit of repose but I decided to do the one-up-man thing and post something about the whole forest. November Woods by Bax. I think it was about the Great Sahara Forest before they cut it down.
    Unfortunately they were too late because it is now one of the hottest places on earth.
     
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    Yes, @Bobby Cole , but you said you needed a tree....not a forest.;) Here's O Fir Tree, Dark!

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