Has Anyone Tried Medical Marijuana To Relieve Their Chronic Pain, Etc.?

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  1. Babs Hunt

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    You are so right about that @Kitty Carmel and that makes me really mad at times. There are so many natural remedies out there but if someone brings up a natural remedy big business and the FDA will try to tell you it won't work...and it's not safe to try it because it hasn't been approved. I'd rather try natural remedies anytime before having to resort to chemical compounds that have such horrific side effects so often.
     
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    Basil is not hard to grow, Kitty; and you can keep the tops trimmed, and it will get bushy just like a coleus plant does, so even. Couple of plants should provide quite a bit of basil. You can also root the stalks easily (again similar to a coleus) and start more plants, and it can be either outside or inside, except in the winter, of course.
    Mine are outside now, and I have both the purple and the green basil, but except for the color, I have not noticed much difference.
     
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    I love basil in my yellow and zucchini squash. :)
     
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    @Yvonne Smith Thank you for the information. I just thought of having it inside in the winter though. My tabby will never stand for it. She'll be in attack mode. I'll have to figure out a up high place and hope that will stop her. She is very determined to be bad!
     
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    Lolol just didn't want you to be out in dark corners tryimg to score if you don't know how :p
     
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    Gloria, I don't do illegal anymore...I grew up and decided I didn't want to pay the price it might cost me. :p
     
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    There have been some federal arrests in Maine though, so we should never forget that as long as it is prohibited by federal law, there is danger. They haven't arrested users, as far as I am aware, but they have arrested growers and distributors. This has occurred in other states as well but the media isn't making this well known, probably because they don't want to scare people away from investing in marijuana.

    Rather than going about it through state laws, they should be lobbying congress to repeal the federal laws. Then, and only then, states could do what they pleased. It seems kind of crazy to expect the feds to ignore the law. If it's a bad law, it should be repealed not ignored.
     
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    My first husband did drugs, and even though it was not his “drug of choice” (cocaine was), he also smoked pot sometimes. I remember seeing green leaves in what he had then, @Babs Hunt , and there were always little seeds that had to be picked out before you smoked it or they would go “pop” as they exploded. I tried it a few times, but it made me so dizzy and confused, i could not even speak, and my vision was totally messed up.
    I was told that now they do not use the leaves as much and those are considered inferior, and what is in the good stuff is what is called “bud”, which I am assuming would be the bud before it blossoms and then turns into seeds.
    I don’t think that I would ever want to smoke it , but I would use the leaves for the health benefits if I had some seeds to grow, and I would just grow it in the aerogarden and pick leaves as I used them.
    Alabama will probably be the very last state to legalize it though, we can’t even have lottery here, and some of the counties do not allow alcoholic beverages to be sold on Sunday; so legalizing pot is not very likely to happen, either.
     
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    Smoking marijuana made feel tired and stupid, and I didn't see any point in paying money and risking arrest for that. I can be tired and stupid without assistance.
     
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    Do you get the munchies with the medical marijuana? I have absolutely no desire to eat or smoke pot wether for medical or recreational use but I'm just curious....that alone is a big turnoff for me.
     
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    Another aspect about this whole thing, is that many states (if not all) where pot has been legalized, even for medical use, are not allowing these people to own guns. This makes it kind of a secret weapon in the hands of the people who are pushing for gun control.
    The people who are able to get a prescription for the legalized medical use of cannabis are put on a list , and then they are banned from gun ownership. I think that this has a lot to do with why the federal government is pretty much ignoring that the states are making it legal, even though it is still a federal offense.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/357829-ban-gun-marijuana-users-constitutional/
     
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    I am not an expert by any means, but I am told that they are able to extract the portion of the marijuana plant that is supposed to be beneficial, and people can take just that, by ingesting it rather than smoking it, or they can smoke pot. Maine passed medical marijuana a few years ago, and they passed recreational marijuana legalization a year ago. Out of state lobbies with big bucks just kept bringing it up for referendum until no one could afford to fight it anymore. Like gay marriage, it failed the first few times but those who are opposed aren't able to profit from their opposition, so they eventually can no longer afford the fight. Even at that, both gay marriage and legal marijuana barely passed.

    Anyone can grow up to six plants, I think. The passage of recreational legalization has hurt those who got into the business for medical marijuana because people no longer need a medical marijuana prescription in order to have it or to grow it. A news article also said that most marijuana sales are still being conducted between private parties because it's cheaper than the higher price of legal pot, so Maine isn't seeing much in the way of tax benefits. It's still being sold under the table, so to speak, but with a lesser chance of arrest.
     
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    Since I don't know anyone who uses it for medicinal purposes I can't answer that for sure. But I remember reading some articles about how it helps people who are taking chemo not be so nauseated and that with the nausea subsiding they are able to eat and keep food down. So it may give them the "munchies" Chrissy. :)
     
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    I personally would have no problem with this part since I don't own a gun and don't plan to either. I don't think it's right though that the people pushing for gun control should be able to use this against people who use pot if it is legal.
     
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    Same with Fresno. Even if I wanted or considered smoking it, I'd be afraid to here.

    I do know that the university my grandson goes to won't allow medical marijuana even if you have a note or prescription from the dr.

    I don't know if it's because it's a smoke free campus with 0 tolerance but I do know you can't use it.
     
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    Isn't that the truth! We all can be tired and stupid without assistance at times. :p

    I really enjoyed marijuana in my hippie season of life and it's side affects...which had nothing to do with being tired and stupid for me personally. :)
     
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    Here's what it boils down to as far as I'm concerned. If I ever get to the point where I am in constant, debilitating pain or nausea...I would try medicinal marijuana for those problems before ever trying any chemical compound pain or nausea drug. That's my story...and I'm sticking to it. Give me natural relief any day! :)

    If under those circumstance I would experience a little of the "highs" I experienced in my hippie days...I would just consider that an added perk! :p
     
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    If I'm terminal, I have no problem becoming addicted to the opiates...
     
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    Well Chrissy if we're around long enough I just might be able to tell you if marijuana works for pain and nausea (and gives me the munchies) and you might be able to tell me how those opiates are working for you. :D
     
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    During my time in the HA and as a carny I smoked it a lot, and in all its forms. Never noticed any effect on pain or nausea. Its main effects that I could recommend is:
    1. Anti-stress. Forget the martini. Nothing beats pot.
    2. Sleep. Get high before bedtime and you will go to sleep within an hour, it will be a long deep sleep, with no nightmares, and there will be no hangover when you wake up (like with sleeping pills).
    3. Appetite stimulant. Towards the end of the high, you will get the 'munchies' (i.e. get really hungry).
    I quit about twenty years ago, but now that its totally legal here, I am considering starting again. I now sleep in 4 to 5 hour cycles, and to do that I have to stay up til around 2 or 3 AM, and none of that is acceptable!
     
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    Although medical marijuana may have it's attributes, I really do not have much use for the stuff. I quit smoking it when a lid went from $10 to $12 (50 years ago) and haven't missed it.

    The biggest problem I have with it is that people honestly get up, smoke up and go to work half stoned. Every single cook I have ever talked to who smokes before and during work said that it makes them calmer and faster during a lunch or dinner rush. From what I have observed, they are disorganized, slow and make a lot of unwarranted mistakes.
     
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    I haven't smoked marijuana often in my lifetime but I have tried it, back when it wasn't nearly as potent as they say it is today, It made me feel tired and stupid, and I didn't see either of these to be an improvement on my normal state of mind.
     
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    Pot 201:

    Marijuana has been legal to grow for personal use since 1977, but it could not be sold, given away or transported--you had to grow and use it in your residence. In Alaska, anything that is done totally within your private residence is technically legal.

    As far as the medicinal uses, research is just getting underway since the Feds have made research very difficult to conduct. Marinol, the prescription form of "pot" contains only THC, one of the cannabinoids in the plant. Pot advocates maintain that other compounds in the plant have as much or more medicinal value than THC. Recent research has detected natural cannabinoid receptors in the nervous system of humans, and the fact that we "make" our own endogenous cannabinoids, just as we do opioids. That would seem to make cannabinoids potentially addictive, as opioids are, since taking in exogenous cannabinoids could lead to the loss of the ability to manufacture the endogenous substance, as happens with opioids. Endogenous opioids are self-regulated pain regulators that lead to things like the "runners' high"; the endogenous cannabinoids regulate "neuron firing", so could be useful in MS, Parkinson's, and other similar diseases. It seems that most of the actual pain reduction brought about with cannabinoids is simply placebo effect, although CBD oil (a non-hallucinogenic cannabinoid) appears to reduce pain is some subject when used under supervision. As far as I know, CBD oil is not federally regulated and is legal in most places if used externally. At least I have known of people ordering it and receiving it through the mail. There is evidence that marijuana both causes cancer and prevents it, depending on the site of attachment of the cannabinoid and the molecule bonded. I believe that smoking pot is at least as harmful as smoking cigarettes, if not more so, but few people would smoke 20-40 joints daily, while that is not uncommon with cigarettes.

    Contrary to common belief, there is a "roadside test" for marijuana intoxication, but authorities cannot agree on a so-called "cut-off" level, as tolerance in some people is built quickly, and frequent heavy users are not affected at the same levels as occasional users. Also, cannabinoids are fat-soluble and I have seen cannabinoid metabolites show up at detectable levels six weeks after the last "dose". Was she "under the influence"? I have no idea.

    Complicated subject, and probably more that you want to know/read.
     
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    Ain't much difference I can see. Some who have a evening martini don't stop there. One becomes two, two turns into three, they go to bed drunk, wake up with a hangover, down some more booze, get to work tipsy, at lunch more drinking, barely do the job, then come home to the evening martini. What about them that use pot for medicinal use to take the place of opiates, pain killers or whatever. What are the chances they stop taking the opiates, pain killers or whatever during work?
     
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    Well, I can't speak to the feeling stupid bit, but if one is an insomniac, feeling tired and sleepy is a big improvement.
     
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