Guns Stolen And Recovered

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  1. Cody Fousnaugh

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    First of all, I have no idea why a UPS Facility would have some 400 guns in it. No explanation in the story of that.

    But, on Sunday, two black guys, stole some 400 guns from a UPS Facility in Memphis, TN. A security camera got a picture of both guys. They put them in a U-Haul vehicle. Types of guns were not revealed, but ATF states that this is one of the largest single gun thefts it's ever investigation.

    Now, this afternoon (Tuesday), just read that the U-Haul, with the guns in it, was recovered in a suburb of Chicago and one suspect, out of two, has been arrested.

    Obviously, this isn't the entire story, but it's the story that ATF is giving.

    That's all Chicago needs is more guns, but, thanks to law enforcement and ATF...……..
     
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    I am guessing the weapons were being sent to a gun dealer somewhere. They should certainly be kept in more secure storage.
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh
    "Chicago" was not getting the guns. A city merely exists, it cannot "get" anything.

    The guns likely were to be sold illegally. Problem with that is, as @Don Alaska pointed out, these weapons were likely in transit, to be shipped dealer to dealer. Thus, every single one had been documented by ownership and serial number. Stupid criminal gun buyers probably don't think about such trivia, maybe. But, the smart criminal, having a record already, would strive to buy UN-documented guns, thus ensuring freedom from prosecution of possessing "stolen guns".
    Frank
     
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    The thieves must have had inside information about the rifles being on the UPS shipment, and to know when and where to be able to steal them.
    It seems like it would be odd for two young men to make their way down from Chicago, randomly break into a UPS facility, and just happen to find that many AR-15 rifles sitting there for them to steal.
    I think that there is more to this story than just a random theft of rifles.
    In an odd coincidence, the weapons were stolen just a few days before President Trump would be in Memphis for a rally in Mississippi.
    When researching the internet for more information, I also discovered that an almost identical theft happened in August, also of about 400 rifles, which were stolen in Nevada.

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/aug/01/trailer-with-400-guns-stolen-from-henderson-casino/
     
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    Yes, I would think it is an inside job, either from the seller's end, the buyer's, or UPS. With a tracking code, they would know where it was. They'd just need to know what they were tracking.
     
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    I guess you felt that identifying them as "Black Guys" was somehow important to you. What would have been taken away if you had just called them thieves? Were they pure black? They had no Caucasian, Native American,or Hispanic blood?
     
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    I'll let either Ken or the Mod handle this, however, the news story did say "black" and the security camera showed two black dudes. I have no idea if they were more than one race.

    Sorry if my thread offended you.
     
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    But why was it so important to you to identify them as black? Your post would have carried the same impact and message without the racism!
     
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    Racism??? Again, I will let Ken and/or the forum Mod handle this.
     
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    Ken or Mod...…..if this thread is too offensive to a member, PLEASE simply delete or lock the thread. I sure didn't mean to offend anyone here. Thanks.
     
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    @Peter Renfro

    In matter of fact, there exists today very few "black" individuals in the U.S. as over the years, assimilation of the white and black races has taken place fairly extensively. Native Black Africans have nearly truly black skin, a feature rather hard to find here today. So, in my mind, there almost exists no two such races here anymore.
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    You are the one who is placing importance on it. As far as I can see, he simply gave a synopsis of what the news story said, which included their race. An oversensitive man might ask why it was important to mention their gender.

    Someone for whom the right to own a gun might similarly object to someone mentioning that someone robbed a store using a gun as being prejudicial against the right to own a gun, but facts are facts.

    If a newspaper routinely mentions the race of someone when they are black, but not when they are white, there might be a case for a charge of racism against the newspaper, but Cody was simply mentioning a news story, using the facts that were given. I don't see any more of an emphasis on race than gender, both of which were apparently part of the story.
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh, you didn't say anything wrong. I don't see that you placed any special emphasis on their race, any more than you did their gender, both of which were included in the news story that you were talking about. Facts are not racist.
     
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    Ok. I know you meant no harm, but we need to start someplace.. My Aunt, grew up on a ranch in Utah. Married my Uncle and lived in Ogden. Most loving Christian lady you could ever imagine. Carried a Bible everywhere. Don't know why, she could probably recite that sucker cover to cover. Her son married an Ugandan woman. My Aunt was heard to say when talking about her grand babies, " I love my little brownberries just the same as the regular ones!" That was a racist comment, was not meant to be,but whenever you qualify a person by a physical aspect you are discriminating.
    My thought is that Law Enforcement are the only ones that should classify by race and then only to apprehend a particular subject.
    Ya gotta have some empathy for folks that stick out n a room. Most of us white guys don't know how that is.
     
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    @Peter Renfro

    I worked with a guy at Sears, he was in El Paso, where I had to travel frequently from Phoenix, who was a young black man. Discussing racial prejudice once with him, he pronounced that he hated being thought of as "black", "Black American", "African American", or any other. He preferred to call himself an "American". He was an Army Brat, if that means anything. And he drove a slick 270-Z!
    Frank
     
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