Gun Control News

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    Since we don't generally have a lot to say about any, one specific case of gun control, let this thread be a place where we can post bits of news related to gun control attempts or enforcement, and there's room for debate and discussion on any one of them.

    By news, by the way, I don't mean that it necessarily has to be something published in a newspaper.

    I'll start it out with one that I found some amusement in, given my nasty disposition. In June of 2016, the owner of a restaurant in Portland, Maine, who had been in business for twelve years at the time, reacted to the shooting at the gay nightclub in Florida by posting a notice on her website, on Facebook, and in interviews, that people who owned an assault rifle were not welcome in either of her restaurants.

    Source: Portland Press-Herald, June 16, 2016

    I don't know exactly when her larger restaurant closed, but the building is now up for sale and listed as vacant.

    Source: New England Commercial Property Exchange, 8/8/18

    She may have already sold the Foreside Tavern in Falmouth. Neither their site or Facebook page has any information about ownership or about a change in ownership, but I didn't look beyond a month or so. They have posted a notice saying that they will be closing on 8/20 "for a little summer break," without including a reopening date, however. Falmouth is a very liberal city. I don't know if you're allowed to buy a house there if you've ever voted Republican so she might be okay in Falmouth. Although usually recognized as Maine's most liberal city, Portland restaurants depend, far more than Falmouth, on people from other parts of Maine, who come to Portland to shop at the Maine Mall, and elsewhere.

    Nationally, a business might lose some of its profit margins but be able to stay in business when they cater to liberal pet causes, although we've seen CEOs forced to resign and companies trying to walk back political statements from time to time. But nationally, liberals are far more effective at scaring the hell out of companies whose owners dare even so much as say something nice about a Republican president.

    At the state or local levels, at least in Maine, I have seen more than one business go down after stepping into the gun control quagmire or other leftist causes, particularly after sensational headlines in the newspaper. It's like, they want to be part of that too, and they are applauded by the media. Only, months later they find that the people whose business they said they no longer wanted are taking that seriously, and they'll remember it long after the newspapers are done with the story.

    I wonder why they do it, sometimes. A restaurant in Patten was out of business within a year after the owner posted a small sign about weapons not being allowed in the restaurant and then, her biggest mistake, giving an interview to the newspaper about how she was in favor of gun control. I doubt very many people had brought weapons into her restaurant anyhow, and they probably wouldn't have even noticed the sign. But they do pay attention to who is taking a side against them on an issue that matters to them.
     
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    I have seen some of the same here in Texas on posted retail outlets, word gets around. Many places here that were concealed carry only 30;07 signs when open carry was voted in went to 30:06 no carry signs and both sure felt the sting of it and changed back and removed the 06 signs, I know of several personally it cost them, we even had some offering discounts to open carry citizens. Word does get around.
     
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    Here there are few businesses that are posted, but there is one with a sign:" concealed carry welcome here. Please carry concealed, but if needed, accuracy is appreciated".
     
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    Long ago, still in Illinois, a hulking brute of a guy several heads taller than I took it upon himself to declare he would kill me, given the chance. His chance came one night while our company bowling league was in session. He showed up there, attempted to get me into the restroom..........

    I let the word out, and several dozen half-inebriated fellow employees decided to vigourously side with me, so the guy swore and left. Scared shitless for awhile, I bought a nice, tiny, very unusual Baby Browning .25 Automatic Lightweight, from a sporting goods store, for $57.50, and began carrying it in my pocket everywhere, completely illegally, of course. The purchase was made no questions asked, no background checks, no interference from Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; that was how it still worked in 1967. One year later, following the 2nd. Kennedy killing, the 1968 Gun Control Act was passed, changing forever law-abiding citizens' ability to easily obtain an "equalizer".

    Fortunately, the issue never presented itself again. Had I kept that little Browning, it would be worth about $500 today. Handguns, especially: better than money in the bank!

    Frank
     
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    Where did you live where it was illegal to carry a weapon in 1967? I was in tenth grade and I could carry a weapon.
     
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    @Ken Anderson

    "Long ago, still in Illinois, ........"

    Illinois forbade carry of a weapon, whether concealed or not, until just a few years ago. Even carry in a vehicle was illegal, though folks going on hunting trips disregarded the law. Illinois was thought by the lawyers who even supported CCW to likely be the last and only statIllinois

    Possession of a handgun in the City of Chicago was then illegal. Yet, most everyone knew that everyone possessed one. A strange warpage of the law extending to nearly all residents.

    We lived 1 mile west of the Chicago City Limits, in Berwyn. Our local laws concerning firearms in general, and handguns in particular, were garbled: no one seemed able to interpret their accuracy. So, every Berwyn resident was thought to possess a handgun, and that was likely probable. My Dad had several, which I inherited. During my 30 years in Berwyn, from birth until exit, I never once had need to hold and point a gun in self-defense. Knew of no one else who had. Everyone knew guns were TOOLS, albeight MIGHTY TOOLS, to be used only at times of supreme duress.

    Frank
     
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