Graduate Carrys Cap And Ar-10 Rifle

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  1. Cody Fousnaugh

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    She is very proud of this photo. She is a big advocate of "concealed weapon" on campus by students. She was allowed to have the photo taken, because she graduated and is not longer a student on the campus.

    What do you think?
     
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    I think someone could have easily shot her thinking she was a threat.
     
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    Nope. She got permission from the University to take the photo. Nobody harassed her or anything. This photo went viral...…...and many are happy she done it. She also owns a handgun. Story of this is online.
     
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    And what is concealed as to this weapon? The handgun probably...
     
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    I don't like the idea of students having guns on campus. Weekends are crazy and someone could easily get shot.
     
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    But not where your grandson goes. You said they drink, but don’t party there. Now, how in the heck do college kids drink and not party???
    Interesting!!
     
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    Because some schools are known as Party schools...what that means is they REALLY REALLY party hard.

    All schools party some and do drink for the most part.

    You don't have to go to a party to drink, they do it in their rooms or appts also.
     
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    That's a ridiculous statement on your part...like you can only drink at a party???

    There's a difference between party and party hard. Some universities are well known as party schools...Cal Poly is not one of them....they still have parties and drink though.
     
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    Then, @Chrissy Cross, nobody in America should have a Concealed Weapons Permit and carry. Why? There are those that "carry" and go to bars and nightclubs. They drink some-to-too much, someone pi**es them off and they go for that "concealed weapon" and shoots the that person. So much for using a "concealed weapon" for protection.

    As far as our high schools and colleges/universities go, something has to be done about "active shooter/shooters" on the campus. It's really surprising just how many high school students here are caught with a gun in their book bag or in their waistband. Many say they carry for protection from other students that bully them or a student who talks to their girlfriend or boyfriend. Seems like there are a certain amount of high school students here that have no problem shooting and killing another student for whatever reason.
     
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    But, at a party is where people really get going for fun, like most college/university students like to do. College and university students don't just sit around, eat hors d'oeuvres and discuss things. A lot of parents and grandparents wished this is the way it is, but.
     
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    I just think more students would be shot accidentally by other students than someone outside of campus.

    These kids fall of balconies drunk...go to ER with alcohol,poisoning etc.

    I see the campus police log over the Weeknd..they're busy.

    As for other drunks carrying guns...I'm not too crazy about that either.
     
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    Where did I say they eat hors d'oeuvres???

    They drink! I just said some schools are worse than others.
     
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    Alcohol and some meds don't mix....alcoholic and guns don't mix either.

    Ive seen it. My ex got drunk one night and got his gun and was going to shoot the neighbor's dog at night through the fence..Ive never been so scared in my whole life.

    It took everything I had to calm him down and get him in the house.
     
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    Uber does very well on college campuses. :)
     
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    Teens between the ages of 16-19 are more apt to be in a fatal car wreck than any other age.
    Statistically, more 18 and 19 year old teens enter into their first year of college than any other age group.
    That means that those teens who are more apt to kill themselves or someone else in a car crash should not be allowed to bring their cars on campus.
     
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    They aren't their first year.
     
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    Aside from bantering the points raised regarding being armed, unarmed, etc., the rifle the young woman is sporting would really appear to be an AR-10, a variant of the AR-15, which utilizes a much higher level of power. While AR-15s are chambered for the relatively miniscule 5.56 X 45 caliber, a species actually developed in Belgium by the reknowned FN Herstal Company, the AR-10 is chambered for .308 NATO. The 5.56 is in reality a "22" caliber, this being deemed in many jurisdictions as inadequate for hunting game the size of deer. Hence, the critics' claims of AR-15s being "not suited" for legitimate hunding purposes. That's propaganda B.S., pure & simple.

    Now, the AR-10, chambered for .308 NATO caliber, uses a much larger round of .30 caliber, actually a descendent of the world-famed .30-06 everyone has heard about. .30-06 was the standard rifle round used by U.S. in WW-II. The rifle using it was the famous GARAND, called by General Patton "the finest battle rifle ever developed". The .30-06 cartridge was shortened a bit to make it more amenable to full-auto fire in machineguns, and was used in the M-14 military rifle of Korean War vintage and early Viet Nam skirmish. M-14 was a select-fire design capable of firing single-shot or full-automatic. A single-shot version is publicly available and known as the M1-A, generally sold by Springfield Armory. Here is an image showing, left to right, the 5.56 X 45 (or .223), .308 NATO, and .30-06 rounds. Frank


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    I was using a principle comparison using (this time) teens and autos versus teens/ college campuses and guns.

    Just for your assurance, I did not nor ever would give out specific names of those who might be or have been in college whilst garnering civilian legal notoriety. It’s a generalization based on statistical evidence and nothing more.
    Since there are more teens in college who do drive responsibly it makes sense to allow them to drive on campus. The same application might be observed with the trained and qualified gun carrier.
     
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    At UAF, students are permitted any legal firearm on campus, but they are not allowed to have them in any campus facilities or housing, so most students lock them in the trunks of their cars. I am not sure that is safe, either, but I have never heard of an incident there, My sons and one daughter went there, and, although they didn't have any guns with them, one of my sons' friends was a very avid hunter and had several weapons locked in his trunk. In Alaska, handling a firearm when intoxicated is a felony (I believe), so, while done, if caught it means you lose the ability to own any firearms.
     
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    The trouble is when you're drunk as a skunk you don't think about a felony or anything else.
     
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    @Chrissy Cross
    But, what's your point, Grandma? I see it as, grant ability to be armed, violate the conditions (no drinking), get caught, get punished. Lots of firearms-related crime is undoubtedly carried out by individuals not under the influence, anyway.
    Frank
     
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    To debate the holding of firearms by anyone, let alone college students whilst interjecting the use of alcohol and or drugs as a synonymous issue is a misnomer of gigantic proportions.

    If a statistical report were to be issued stating that the vast majority of students who drink and own weapons shoot people compared to those who “party” and own weapons and do not shoot anyone then I would rethink things.
    If there IS such a report, then I would like it produced en masse for all to see so a proper judgement can be made.

    If someone wants to kill someone, drunk or sober, they will find something to do the job whether it be a club, knife, barstool or yes, a gun. If we wish to scrutinize the entire world or just one city and analyze what people use ( non military) to injure or kill each other whether on campus or off I believe that legal gun ownership would not be first on the list.

    The only thing that is in question is NOT open or concealed weapons areas nor alcohol consumption nor drug use but rather the question of having gun free zones.
    My own particular belief is that people do not deliberately smoke in tobacco free zones in order to give everyone second hand smoke, or have a bottle of booze in alcohol free zones to hurt people. But........people absolutely DO carry weapons into a gun free zone in order to kill (defenseless) people and gun free college campuses are ripe for such a demented individual.
     
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    Have to agree with you on this, Bobby.
     
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    Posted the wrong thing.
     
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    I never said it was my husband....read what I wrote...my ex.

    My husband didn't drink.
     
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