Golden State Rapist Murderer Arrested After Almost 40 Years!

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  1. Yvonne Smith

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    I was just reading this news this morning. This man was apparently raping and killing women (and killed men as well) back in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s. It turns out that he was formerly in law enforcement, so that probably helped him to evade being caught.
    They are also crediting a book written by crime blogger Michelle McNamara as helping police to finally catch this suspect. She had written a book about the Folden State Rapist, but it had not yet been published when she died in 2016. Her husband went forward with the business of getting the book published, which probably created a renewed interest in this killer, and might have helped lead to his arrest.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...est-in-golden-state-killer-case/#5a53a1c6378a
     
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    Although I have always been interested in true crime stories, when I was laid up with an injury, I got really hooked on the true crime TV shows. I remember watching a study on this guy. I remember "the flashlight in the face to disorient" trick that he used. There are still a few of these killers/rapists out there who haven't been caught. I hope they catch them all before they die and fall into anonymity.
     
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    Yes I remember watching that too @Don Alaska . I wondered how he'd got away with it all these years...

    As an ex copper ..he's going to have a hard time in prison, and rightly so... ....
     
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    Seen a few police that have been rapists/murderers, they obviously believe they can outsmart
    Not long ago, saw a docu on a well respected Fireman in California, started so many fires !
    Eventually caught, he loved the thrill of starting them then going out to the scene with a crew
    They think they're invincible - they 'are' the lowest of the low, along with priests and nuns hiding behind their job descriptions
     
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    I have a friend who is a District Attorney in Georgia. He could make a lot more money in private practice, but he gets areal kick out of putting the bad guys (and gals) where they belong. Anyway, he once said that virtually all criminals think they are smarter than the system and never think they will be caught. There are a few--the REALLY smart ones--who do get away with crime for years and some are never caught. Many who get away with crime for years are apprehended when they start "taunting" the cops, BTK for instance. The Unabomber was another.
     
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    I would 'get a kick outa putting bad guys and gals away too' !
    Criminals think they're smart and those I've quoted above think they're smart too
     
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    Didn't they get a hit on a relative who had submitted his/her DNA to Ancestry.com or one of the other private genetics testing labs? That's what someone said on the radio, although I was only half paying attention.
     
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    That is what I read, too. Once they found the matching DNA, they pretty much had no problem tracing him down. I think that the book coming out probably played a part because it brought attention back to the cold case again, and with the new DNA evidence that they didn’t have back then, they were able to find him.
    I imagine that by now, he thought that he was pretty safe.
     
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    Ancestry and 23and You (or something like that) have denied that they were part of the case, so it must have been one of the lesser-known sites. I am glad he was caught, but I still find it a bit spooky.
     
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    Although it seemed clear to me that the private DNA testing labs were sure to be a collection point for the law enforcement DNA database, I don't imagine anyone would like to have that pointed out to everyone.
     
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    I do not recall the company's name, but it was indeed a DNA collection agency that linked to the capture of the rapist. I definitely do like the idea that the man was captured but I'm now somewhat skeptical concerning the privacy of obtaining one's ancestry via DNA testing.
    According to an article I was reading (before coffee this morning), most of those companies declare that all testing is private with a caveat of when law enforcement is involved.
    So far as my own personal interests go, I don't care because there's nothing to find but I can see a lot of trouble over it brewing if the local police, HS, The FBI or even the CIA are automatically linked to DNA ancestry testing.
     
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    Not sure I have a problem with it as long as people are aware of the process
    If they are clean - no problem for them, maybe for relatives - but I say, so be it
     
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    Yeah, but it's sort of like the medical privacy issue. A lot of folks are real particular about who can access a medical file so it's a possibility that those same sort of people would be ticked if they found out that their DNA was being revealed to whoever. As far as I'm concerned, I am an open book so whoever really wishes to have a boring read, go for it, no charge.
     
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    I just heard the news report on it and, while they made it clear that it was a DNA testing company, they didn't name it. I had a feeling, from the start, that the result from Ancestry.com and other private DNA testing labs would end up in the government's database, or that they would have ready access to it.
     
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    GEDmatch is name given to the Wall Street Journal.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/use-of...te-killer-raises-privacy-questions-1524913201
     
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    Yep - can understand that but they need to be informed of the possibility of disclosure, then its their choice to continue
     
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    But the problem is that someone else was the one who agreed to the terms. This could expand in a lot of different directions. It does seem to be a medical privacy issue, and is akin to your "Aunt Sally" agreeing to release your lab or imaging results to the police without your knowledge. It may end up letting this guy go free anyway unless a warrant was issued. HIPPA generally protects information like this from being released without a subpoena or warrant in the U.S. I was thinking of having my identical twin daughter send their DNA in and see if they come back with different backgrounds. I think this "genealogical" DNA testing has been ruled inadmissible in some jurisdictions as it leads to Racial Profiling. Wouldn't Mr. Hitler have had a field day with that one--just pull all the DNA records and eliminate the ones deemed unsuitable. Anyway, I'm glad he was caught, but I wish the evidence had come from a different source.
     
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    Exactly. Although I was the one who signed the agreement to have my DNA tested, a DNA sample from any of my brothers would be identified as being from one of my siblings, and that would cut the number of people they need to look at down to four. A higher, but still manageable group, would be cousins, and so on. These private DNA test banks will prove to be very helpful to law enforcement and, as you say Don, if another anti-Semitic (or anti-anything) regime were to come to power, it would prove invaluable.
     
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    Yea I get that, I just wonder now, if anyone will go down this route in future
    It can only be recent participants that would be viable DNA
    I don't personally have a problem with them obtaining the DNA
     
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    I was involved in a remote way with some of this in a prior life. The goal of the geneticists is to do a genotype on every newborn, so that all the future genetic "diseases" and traits/tendencies could be preemptively be identified and, hopefully, addressed. How would you like to go through life from childhood knowing you had Huntington's...or some other horrible problem. Could euthanasia be far behind?
     
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    I can see that happening. Even before that, I can see mandatory abortions. If not mandatory, then no insurance if you choose otherwise. They are always working on being able to determine the potential for criminality through DNA as well. What if they determine that you have criminal DNA? Will that limit your job choices?
     
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