For Some, Everything Seems to Be a Conspiracy

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  1. Sarah Price

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    Hello,

    I spend a fair amount of time on Facebook and I have noticed in the past year or two whenever a big event happens somebody ALWAYS thinks its a conspiracy! Osama bin Laden didn't really die, there was no evidence of the body so it had to be a conspiracy... Of course, there are those who think 9/11 was a conspiracy, the shooting at Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, the Ferguson riots were a conspiracy and so on and so forth. There is no way that every major event could be a conspiracy! My two cents. :)
     
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    That's to be expected when we're lied to so often that we no longer have sources of information that we can trust.
     
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    So true, this mostly applies to the close minded people imprisoned by the mind living a fake sense of reality. Such states of mind are conformed with their living conditions and are afraid to seek something more, beyond the ordinary conceptions of an average consumer. Human nature is intertwined with fear of anything challenging lifestyle, we must overcome this primitive trait and change for the better. Taking into account what we hear and accurately judge credibility.
     
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    I think people today want a sense of high drama. They are so dissatisfied with their lives that they live vicariously through the conflict and drama of a good "conspiracy". I'm not saying that conspiracies don't exist, but to see one around every corner is unrealistic. For me, though, I love reading about them - it's fun to see how gullible people can be.
     
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    I love to read about them also, I find it hard to believe some people are that gullible and afraid of their own shadows. The "they" that is out to get them.
     
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    For me, this says it all. I am open-minded enough to check out whatever I can about any event, and come to my own conclusion.
     
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    I would be hard put to say that everything bad that happens is the result of some conspiracy, but I do think that there are those in our government who conspire to further whatever their agenda is by "never letting a good crisis go to waste".
     
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    I think a lot of it deals with the fact that people enjoy conspiracies to some degree. They are exciting to think about and make you feel like you may be in the know about something that everyone else is not. With enough time and effort you can manage to get yourself to believe almost anything if you try hard enough.
     
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    I agree that some people want to believe in conspiracies because it makes them feel superior to those who don't believe it. Because they feel insecure and uninformed, they want to think that everyone is being manipulated and that there are government departments where people think up these evil ideas.

    I could never be a conspiracy theorist because I would not want to live my life in such fear of authority. It's bad enough that we live in a world with terrorists and despots who want to convince everyone else that they are in control. I don't want to think that every major disaster is just part of a government plan.
     
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    Hear, Hear!! Actually, I believe all conspiracies are a conspiracy. The first conspiritors try to outwit the public and find other conspiritors outdoing the first conspiracy which wasn't really that much of a conspiracy until it turned into one because of the later conspiracy. Do you follow?
    Now, if it had not been for a prime activity that absolutely needed and begged for a conspiracy then there would be none. Unless.......a third party entered in and needed one to send to the "Enquirer" which we all know is a factual paper based on confronting conspiracies, which weren't but now are when the government got ahold of it and wanted to tax conspiracies that worked well with the president. Understood? Let me try again.........later!
     
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    Perhaps the greatest conspiracy was that which led people to automatically add "theory" after the word, the idea being that there are no real conspiracies, and that anything having to do with a conspiracy is crazy talk.
     
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    Please forgive the "light hearted Jibberish" I displayed in a former post, because I do believe there are indeed a few conspiracies out there and doing well beyond their greatest expectations. Some things just strike me funny and I do vent the humor quite often and possibly in the wrong place at the wrong time. But, maybe not in this case.

    Seriously though Ken and all, we cannot forget the word, "theory," for I am guilty of believing some of the conspiracies but have not a scratch of proof.
    Do I believe Al Sharpton is trying to derail the progress we have made in the racial structure of this country? Yes.
    Do I believe O'Bama to be a mere puppet? yes, but who is in the background I do not know for sure.
    Do I believe that every written or spoken word via internet and airway is being heard and read by big brother? yes.
    Do I believe that 9/11 was an inside job? no.
    There are probably hundreds of things we can call conspiracies and rightfully so, but they only receive the merit of being theories until proven otherwise. The methodology involved in a scientific study begins with theory and ends with examining the proof.

    You see what I mean? I cannot prove nor disprove any of these, but I have my beliefs on the subject of conspiracies. Some topics in the news I can readily pick apart and call them what they are, but they still remain theories on my part. Sometimes I just keep quiet and wait for confirmation to appear regarding a potential conspiracy and then the doors come open. But, if I am proven wrong, there's no harm done because the disappearance of a smile still reveals nothing. For my own sanity, this is how I handle "conspiracies."

    My wife is a conspiracy theory nut, but I love her and do listen to what she has to say.....most of the time. She is neither crazy nor has a screw missing, but she, like others are totally entitled to an opinion and should also be received with grace and a measure of thought, for who should dare step on something someone truely believes unless they are willing for others to do the same to them.
     
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    My point is that the phrase "conspiracy theory" has been redefined to mean something that only crazy people believe.
     
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    Gotcha! "REdefined" is key here. A huge word but missed by my poor ailing eyes and dimming brain.
     
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    It's a good way to prevent people from voicing their concern that someone might be plotting something.
     
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    Exactly. The term conspiracy theory is simply used to try and denigrate what might otherwise be termed a rational explanation. There are lots of examples in US history of the US government using deception to explain their actions and what might have been an alternative rational explanation later comes to light as true. You can easily do a Google search to find list of former "conspiracy theories" that turned out to be facts.
     
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    There are many people with some great minds that will never be heard because they are afraid to be shushed up or ostracized by someone or a group who cannot stand someone with a measure of curiosity in search of truth. Whole countries have been quieted by such persons generally referred to as dictators.
    The greatest conspiracy this world will ever experience will be achieved when those people with a higher form of intelligence and curiosity are muted right here in a land where freedom of thought and speech are the pillars of freedom. Is that a theory or fact? Dunno........ask the citizens in Cuba, China, N. Korea, ect. I am sure that literally anyone in those countries would tell you what has dulled their drive and quieted their tongues.........if they wanted to risk their lives. Or, is that just a conspiracy theory?

    Oh well, I wouldn't worry about it.........nothing really bad ever happens in the U.S.A. because we all are just so wonderful, cuddly, fuzzy and kind to each other at all times. No one would ever seek power, kill people in the streets, or jam the voting boxes with dead peoples names. Not here. Not in the U.S. Not in my life. ...........or is it happening already? Naw..Just a theory.
     
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    Funny! I think you would make a great conspiracist because I am totally confused by your commentary! ;) I think that's part of what conspiracy is all about. It's trying to make people unsure about what they believe.
     
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    Wait isn't that the purpose of television? I do agree that things these days are all called conspiracy, but then reality TV is called reality, not sure who's exactly, certainly never was mine. My father told me years ago that a confused mind will do nothing, and sometimes I find myself wondering about the level of confusion that goes on these days. Maybe it is just the side effect of to much information, but it seems like there is not that many people left that have a clue anymore.

    It is ironic when you think about it, because it has been in recent years some of the best inventions have sprang forth so even the thought that there is to much confusion is not right either, wait maybe it really is some sort of conspiracy after all......hmmmm.....
     
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    Some people are exasperated with all of the conspiracy theories that are out there, while others are disgusted with those who won't open their eyes and see what's going on around them.
     
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    I see conspiracy theorists as having their own agenda which they like to push and in most cases it's the same agenda.

    I've read both sides of conspiracies and the problem is that the conspiracy theorists also have a closed mind, refusing to look at anything that debunks what they say.

    I guess each side believes what they want to just like in everything else, and nothing will change anybody's mind.
     
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    It is my opinion that government conspiracies are playing out on a daily basis. They have an agenda and will continue to work on that agenda until they have achieved their goals or for some reason it comes into the light. I,m one of those that is disgusted.
     
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    It's also disgusting that some will fake photos just to prove a conspiracy, especially Sandy Hook. That one is the cruelest one in my opinion. People had children die and they had to listen and hear and be hounded by some of these conspiracy theorists.

    My brother in law is an ER Dr. that lives less than 2 hours from where it happened, it was definitely not a hoax or fake.

    I really don't think most people believe these theories so if it makes them happy and there is no harm to others then I guess they can say what they want, we have the option of not listening.
     
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    It's not that these events don't happen it's whose actually making them happen. Which is a far worse than just making them up. Ask why are these things happening so often in recent years. Ask yourself why we blame the guns not the people using them. Ask your self why a person on the watch list got a legal gun. And when I say yourself I am not being personal. Ask yourself why they would want our guns.
     
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    I tend to agree. Some think the moon landing was a hoax, Hitler made it out of Germany, Butch Cassidy got back to the US and died of old age. It just never ends.
    I don't believe everything I see or hear. That's why I don't believe conspiracies either.
     
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