Flu, Despite Flu Shot

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  1. Frank Sanoica

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    Yesterday evening, my wife said she felt "not quite right". This phrase we use often jokingly in referring to some demented individual. Morning, we both arose seemingly OK, but as a few hours went by, she said she might have flu-like symptoms: headache, dry cough, feeling weak, thermometer confirmed it: about one degree above normal. She spent most of today confined to her recliner, reading off temperatures like the Weather Channel!

    She took a few Ibuprofens, as the day wore on, me replacing overhead wiring in my shop, she sitting it out in the chair, her temperature jumped up and down, above 98.6 all day, but as high as 101.8 this evening. I told her that by tomorrow, if improvement was not evident, we were going to Doctor, or ER.

    Tonight, she just went to bed, 20 minutes ago. I am very worried about her. She quit the G. D. cigarettes about 15 years ago, has never had chest pain, but experienced an obvious T.I.A. over a year ago. Her older sister had a stroke a year ago, and her life is now changed forever.

    By tomorrow, the tale will be told. Improved, lower fever, or seek help. What would YOU do? What should I do?

    Frank
     
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    From my previous medical experience and from working for a company that took care of Senior's health, if she's not better, get medical help. What she has may not be the flu, but getting the Senior Flu Shot doesn't guarantee the person they won't get the flu, it's just if they do, it won't be as bad as without the shot.

    We, wife and I, really watch getting around people this time of year, because tons of people go out in public with a bad cold or even the flu. We only go to church on Christmas Eve, due to how many folks go to church sick. Although, at times it's hard to tell if the person has the flu or an allergy. A high temperature would be a good clue of flu symptoms. If not better, get her to a doctor.
     
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    Hope she's feeling a bit better Frank, you feel so dreadful its hard to know whether to seek medical advice.
    Over here, they don't like you bothering
    Do you have a helpline to phone ?
     
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    There's been quite a few deaths from the flu in California, especially in my daughter's area.

    http://www.kion546.com/news/flu-rel...-santa-cruz-and-san-benito-counties/684091254

    I didn't get the flu shot so I'm going to be extra careful around my 14 yr old grandson and any place I go with him.

    At home I keep to myself so not exposed to much but there I'll be going to his basketball game, the movie and just the fact that he's a kid in school.

    See a dr @Frank Sanoica if she's worse today...this is a bad flu year, plus it could be something else
    Brewing.

    My ex is in the hospital with pneumonia.
     
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    It looks like this bad strain of the flu is pretty rampant everywhere right now, and getting your wife to the doctor’s office sounds like the best thing to do at this point. If there were not so many bad reports, then waiting might be okay; but people everywhere are hospitalized and some are dying from this epidemic.
    The other day, @Lon Tanner was saying that his whole senior living complex is shut down, which is in California, and I was just reading my north Idaho news, and the whole senior restorium in Bonners Ferry is also shut down and everyone confined to their rooms.
    I haven’t heard about senior complexes here; but when we went to the fitness center, they had posted notices about getting to the hospital if you felt sick.
    This seems to be pretty a widespread outbreak.
    Prayers for you and your wife, @Frank Sanoica , and keep us posted about how she is doing.
     
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    I didn't hear that about Lon's complex @Yvonne Smith ....he's not that far from my house.
     
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    I thought he posted it here, too; but apparently it was just on the other forum. He said they are all confined to their rooms and meals are being brought right to each room to keep people isolated so they don’t spread it worse than it already is.
    Bobby was telling me about some 21 year old body builder that was fine one day, and two days later, dead in the hospital, from this flu, so it is not just elderly people who are dying with this virus.
     
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    Thanks @Yvonne Smith ...I looked over there and saw it, must have missed it somehow on my daily rounds. :)

    I have drs appt in February...maybe I'll get the flu shot...it's getting kind of scary.
     
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    The same thing is happening over here with the Aussie flu now . A specialist said that this is a much worse strain than the Asian flu which killed over 300,00 worldwide. Hospitals here have shut their doors to visitors. ..

    It's a very caring thing for Lon's place to do because all the residents are elderly and very vulnerable so if they keep people separated they're less likely to contract the flu ...poor Lon tho' he's only just moved in and was getting used to the interaction with other folks and the fabulous facilities... but better alone in your room than sick with a fatal flu...

    @Frank Sanoica , I sincerely hope your wife doesn't have the flu, do keep us updated if you can
     
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    Yes, Chrissy, it is getting scary. California, along with Florida and some other states are having a real problem with people and the flu. Wife and I are definitely glad we got our shot. Didn't cost us anything with Medicare B.........nothing.
     
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    Hopefully I'll keep away from the flu until feb. think my appt is the 12th.

    Was going to ask dr my last appt but forgot about it. :(

    In the 14 years I've lived in Fresno I've not had the flu once...got the shot one year when I volunteered.

    Did have Bronchitis last year though and that was bad enough.
     
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    My doctor told me that this year's flu shot guards against, I think she said, four different strains of the flu but has given only about 50% protection from the flu. Of course, that would be regional because it all depends on which strains are floating around your neighborhood, and which you have been vaccinated against.

    I have had a flu shot twice and have had the flu once. The first time I got a flu shot, I was sick for about four days afterwards. I felt miserable, although when I compare it to the time that I actually had the flu, the flu was a whole lot worse. But when I add the chance that I'll get sick from the vaccination itself with the fact that there is still a 50% chance that I'll get the flu anyhow, I decided against it.
     
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    When I got my flu shot that one time, I felt absolutely nothing. It was like I didn't even get the shot.
     
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    I have never had a flu shot, but I very seldom get sick. It seems like this is a particularly vicious strain of flu virus, so we will probably try to stay away from places where infected people might be, as much as possible, and just try to keep our immune systems working at its best performance.
    I upped my intake of vitamin C, D3, and iodine, and am going to try even harder to cut out the inflammatory/acidic foods from my diet, at least for a while .
    I have kind of let it slide in this cold weather and the holiday season ahead of that, so now I need to get back with the program again.
    I do NOT want to get sick !

    https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-3919/How-to-Arm-Yourself-Against-Sickness-with-Alkaline.html
     
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    I am concerned about vaccinations, in that I do believe that they can do more harm than good, particularly given the number of vaccinations that many of us receive. However, I don't think I am a fanatic about it. I think about getting a shingles vaccination because that is a miserable disease to have, and the vaccination is supposed to have a better than 50% success rate. Probably, I would get a flu vaccination if I spent more time with other people during the winter but, other than going to the store once in a while, or a bi-weekly shopping trip to Bangor, I generally stay home. Our church is up north so we don't often make the drive in the winter and, even then, it's a small church of only about twenty people. We don't have kids coming in and out of the house anymore, and we receive only a few visitors, and they probably wouldn't visit if they were sick. So I am thinking that I can avoid the flu without a vaccination.
     
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    I don't seem to have any problems with vaccinations. Ive had the all the ones I was supposed to have as a child.

    Got the flu shot once and the shingles vaccine also.

    Recently had a tetanus shot which the nurse said would hurt but it didn't.

    The tetanus shot a few years ago was just a precaution...Pickles snagged my hand and drew blood. My dr said just to be on the safe side so I got it.

    Didn't have insurance then and it cost $75.

    The shingles shot was $200

    The flu shot at the time was free for me because it was required by St Agnes Hospital in order to volunteer.

    I'm the type that doesn't get side effects...usually.
     
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    Also, the fact that now I'm over the age of 65 makes me lean in favor of getting the flu shot.
     
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    30 people here have died of the flu. And very close to becoming an epidemic according to the news. I finally got my flu shot the other day but still staying close to home. @Frank Sanoica ..flu or no flu she needs to see the doctor...keep us posted.
     
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    "But when I add the chance that I'll get sick from the vaccination itself with the fact that there is still a 50% chance that I'll get the flu anyhow, I decided against it. "

    @Ken Anderson , hypothetical situation:

    Someone has a gun pointed at your head. It holds 100 rounds. 50 of the chambers are empty. The cartridges in 49 chambers only contain enough powder to severely bruise your head. One is loaded with enough powder to go through your head, taking with it a good deal of your brain. This person offers you a helmet that will stop the bullet. It may cause some discomfort, maybe even cause a couple of blisters where it touches the skin. There is only one chance In 100 that you will die. How brave are you? Would you take the helmet?

    That's how I see the flu vaccine.
     
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    Well put.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't want to get the shot, that's entirely up to them. But, the one year I didn't, I came down with a really bad cough just before the weekend of New Years. I was coughing so bad, I told my wife "I think the good Lord might take me". I was able to see a doctor the day after New Years Day (on a Monday) and it turned out, from getting a chest x-ray, that I had a nice spot of pneumonia on one lung. Prescription codeine cough syrup and anti-biotic got rid of everything.

    After that episode, I now, as well as my wife, get the Senior Double Dose Flu Shot each and every year. Not saying we won't get a bad cold, or even the flu, but at least it won't be as bad as without the shot.
     
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    Nursing homes will stop admissions if there is a bad flu outbreak. It's a horrible condition to work in when it happens. Worse to be the sick person.
     
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    85 people have died thus far from this flu virus here in the UK..and in the last week alone deaths have risen by a massive 77% according to the media today . Very scary if it's true...but it seems to be affecting all ages not just the very young, sick or old...

    I haven't had the flu jab and I'm not going to get it, I get too poorly after any vaccinations...that said I'm going to try and stay home as much as I can, and have given hubs strict warning to ensure he's doing everything he can while he's at work to minimise the risks of catching it and bringing it home.

    I've had pneumonia twice in my life..I think a third would kill me off..


    No updates from frank yet?... that's a bit worrying...
     
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    @Gloria Mitchell
    Well, it is now the second day passed, and she has refused to go to the dr. Of course, in view of refusing my demand that she go to the ER when she had an obvious TIA, and talked "out of her head" for about 20 minutes, her refusal today is not surprising. I gauging all this by her symptoms: dry, hacking cough, little or no phlegm, no sign of involvement in lungs, yet. Pneumonia being as great a danger to old folks that it is, I watch closely for early signs. Then the team of horses is readied.

    So far, I'm untouched (except maybe a bit touched in the head). Recall the Pharmacist saying when we got the flu shots that due to my being 75, mine would be more "potent" than my wife's. Perhaps mine included the strain now gripping thousands. I felt nothing during administration of the shot, nor any after-effects following it.
    Frank
     
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