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Discussion in 'Conspiracies & Paranormal' started by Babs Hunt, Mar 30, 2016.
I hope so too.
I'd never thought of that Tom, you might be right.
Well, I am of a a split belief here. I don't think that the Royal family were behind her death, why bother, she was now divorced from Charles, he and she could do whatever they wanted with whomever they wanted. However, that doesn't mean that I don't think she wasn't murder. To me this was indeed a tragic accident but one that could definitely been avoided. There was zero reason for all the paparazzi to be out there stalking her in such a fashion as to be literally following her car down a highway. I was hoping that this would change the way the press could pursue celebrities, but instead because the driver had been drinking he was made the scapegoat for the whole tragedy while the press got off the hook. Seriously, this was just so wrong and again could of been avoided.
Well there was one problem even though she and Charles were divorced. The man Diana was in love with and probably also was pregnant for...was not suitable to the Royal Family to be a husband of the mother of the heirs to the throne.
I believe Diana was killed .
Well being a ' limey' myself, it seemed at the time to massively unsettle the country and make the Royal Family very unpopular, so the actual result of Diana's death was the opposite to what would be wanted if the establishment ordered her death. I agree with those who have said it was a sad accident. After all there was evidence Dodi al Fahad's driver was an alcoholic and drunk at the time of the crash.
The evidence is that he was 'not' drunk on that night
Also her security would not have allowed a drunk to drive her anywhere
@Patsy Faye I think the evidence is equivocal; I thought it was a fact the driver had a drink problem and, having known professionally and privately many such people, they have a gift for denial (that they have a problem) and concealment (being aware of the need to attempt to hide their drinking). Possibly the pursuit of Diana's car by journalists made an accident more likely, but I sincerely doubt all the conspiracy theories. As I have already said, Diana's death did serious damage to confidence in the establishment.
I know Wikipedia is hardly an impeccable source, but it is usually accurate on the main details and there it is clearly stated Henri Paul had been drinking:
Hi Harry - we will all have our opinion on this subject, initially yes - the Royals did look bad in their handling of her death
but - the public were swayed later on and all forgiven
I read a book by an investigative journalist with good contacts, it was a thorough read and instilled serious doubt on the events
We will never 'know' of course - its a case of who you believe .............
@Patsy Faye, Hi Patsy, absolutely in agreement with you. You're totally entitled to your opinion. We can never know for sure what happened.
He may well have been an innocent man besmirched by the media looking for a scapegoat. However, for me, that would mean a lot of people were mistaken or lying.
I remember reading two biographies of Hermann Göring. One portrayed him as a man with promise, misled by Hitler, the other "mit dem Teufel an der Wand", painted him as the devil incarnate. From what I can remember both were written by reputable authors
Yes Harry, that's about the size of it
@Patsy Faye I'm sure you've heard of the psychological experiment where a lecturer made it look as though he had been shot and killed by an assailant. Most of his students when asked to describe the 'killer' were completely wrong. If someone at an event is often unable to give a true description of what happened, how can we?
True enough - but I bet Columbo would have solved this case in a matter of days
@Patsy Faye , a character like the inverse of Sherlock Holmes, appears a bit daft, unable to get his wardrobe together, fairly modest, but in actual fact quite a smart cookie!
Ha ha yes - 2 very different characters
Of course Holmes would do equally well at solving the case, would just take a little longer
@Patsy Faye I really like both, but they're a bit samey ... I wonder what the two together would be like!
Oh I'd love to see that !
I wonder if Columbo would get on Sherlocks nerves, just a bit ..........
Sherlock liked to 'cogitate' and Columbo 'regurgitate' ........'aah - just one more thing' .............
@Patsy Faye, I'd love it as a comedy sketch:
As a famous man once said, Columbo, Entitia non sunt esse multiplicanda, when you have eliminated the impossible, you are left with the solution, no matter how outré or implausible it may be.
Sherlock, you gotta think out of the box here, coming up with these theories with so few facts and spending so little time interviewing is no way to solve a case ....
Sadly, the Princess was in part responsible for her own death, because if she had been wearing a seatbelt, odds are shet wouldn't have been so severely injured.. My understanding was the emergency system in France was not as good as other systems in the world, and she probably would have been saved had the accident happened in the US or maybe England or Germany. That was a sad time, and I felt really bad for her children. I cried about it, she was quite a beloved figure, maybe not to certain members of the royal family but to most of the world.
A comedy sketch - I agree !
I wonder if the seatbelt worked - no examination of the Mercedes allowed - bizarre goings on
I am probably not going to be liked by some for saying this, but Lady Diana struck me as being very naive, too trusting and nice for her own good. At the time I had been taken advantage of and duped a few times and I had become more cynical and distrusting. She made me think of the younger version of me and I thought she would end up being cheated and abused.
Harry, you are absolutely correct in what you say
I could have cried along with her, when she realised the 'truth' of it - she was there to produce babies and be quiet
The first part she did, the second - she could not
Patsy, to be honest, I was amazed Charles got away with having a clandestine affair with Camilla and the apparent acceptance they receive now. If he becomes king, any time they play the national anthem will find me firmly on my backside! I have no respect for a man prepared to marry a woman to merely ensure the succession.
I know - its amazing just what they 'do' get away with and the patriotic are so forgiving aren't they .............
Truth is definitely stranger and more shocking than fiction