Climbing Mount Everest

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  1. Kitty Carmel

    Kitty Carmel Very Well-Known Member
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    And other things that make no sense.

    There was a movie on TV a couple of weeks ago. Everest. Seriously what is the attraction of doing this. You climbed the highest point on earth, unsuitable for humans. What was the accomplishment. Rock, ice, no oxygen. People don't belong there, obviously.

    Why would someone do this when they could instead be in a nice cool meadow with trees a and a stream near by. That sounds nice to me.

    Admittedly I've never had much ambition. Just survival mode. So for me, it literally makes no sense to want to climb Mount Everest. Does anyone find doing things like this appealing?
     
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    I agree with you, and I have never wanted to do anything like that either, @Kitty Carmel . Nope, no mountain climbing, hanging off the face of a cliff, sky-diving, or even deep sea diving.
    But, we are all different, and some people seem to crave this type of activity. If we enjoy sitting in the meadow and smelling the wild flowers, that is fine, and if someone wants to scale some mountain peak, then that is fine for them to do.
    The only problem that I can see with that is that when something happens to one of these people living on the edge, then another person has to risk their life to save the adventurer. So, they not only endanger their own life, but other people’s lives, as well.
     
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    There are bodies on Mount Everest that are not removed. More than two hundred people have died attempting to climb the mountain, and most of the bodies are still there, unburied. Although many of them are in crevices and other places, others are in the open, where climbers walk past them.
     
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    I do like hiking but not mountain climbing...no desire at all to do anything like that.

    I do think that hiking the Appalachian Trail would be a cool thing to do and I've read many books on it and wish I was brave and fit enough to do even a portion of it...I'm not.

    And I would never attempt it alone...too chicken, especially at night. :)
     
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    if I was brave enough I would do it...well maybe not Everest because that's verrrrry high,:eek: but despite my fear of heights, amazingly I was always a climber as a kid...probably never got more than 10 feet up the sandstone walls around where we lived but I always liked to climb...so I've always had a hankering to climb a mountain. I'm too old now to even think about it..but I do agree, I never see the point of those who climb mountains more than once. Once you'd climbed one you've climbed them all IMO..but apparently not according to my cliff climbing friend...they all present a different challenge..
     
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    I'm afraid of heights. I used to climb derricks in the oil patch, place a 2X12 board across the frame to walk out on to stab a plug. Worked derrick during drilling operations. That's a little too high for me. People who climb Everest or any of the worlds great mountains have a loose screw somewhere. May be in their DNA but somewhere there's this loose screw that lets out a little bit of 'tempt death' much akin to Evil Kenivel playing around with his motor bikes. Too much wanting acclaim, often egos too big for their abilities. No, Sir, I'll take that little house on the prairie with an accasional hike to the hills and back, or that little stream running under all those cottonwoods, sit there on the bank with my feet in the water, thinking 'maybe I ought to go buy me a pickup'. Anybody with a layout like this to enjoy needs a truck and a rifle and a good dog. There's plenty of time to lay back in your easy chair listening to the news about them mountain climbers who encountered a sudden avalanche. No one knows for sure how many are missing. Two or three climbers did make it down to report the problem but with gale force winds no rescue attempt is possible until the morrow. Stay tuned, your weather is next.
     
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    I am sure that more folks die sitting in their recliner or on the toilet, than climbing Mt Everest......yet there are still huge numbers of people who still gladly do it.;)
     
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    And,@Joe Riley, they will all probably tell you they climb it cause its there (evidence of that loose screw) but i can't disagree with your argument. Wouldn't want to.
     
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    With hiking your are breathing the air, seeing nature and able to walk on your own two feet. If you don't trip on something. Yes there may be steep trails but it's humanly possible. I've read some trails that would be nice to walk. I don't even go to ones in my area. Worried what weirdo may be on the trail. So I get that.
     
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    I aspired once to become a climber. I was going to enroll in a climbing school when we were first married. My wife told me, "You can do it, but I won't watch. I don't want to be there to watch you die." I never signed up....
     
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    I would climb the "stairway to Heaven" (if there is one) but I have no inclination to climb Mt. Everest or any other mountain. I think it's a very foolish thing to do too...but it seems there are many fools in this World...some of them dead right on Mt. Everest.
     
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    Yes in no way do I get this @Babs Hunt and @Ken Anderson Knowing what has happened to people before and knowing they died just for that. Seems senseless. When there are things we can do in hospitable environments.

    It's some kind of ambition or maybe an arrogance to be able to say "I did" but it's beyond my comprehension.
     
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    I get it. As I have wanted to hike the Appalachian Trail, those who climb mountains are building memories that will be with them always, and those who climb large mountains, like Mount Everest, are in an exclusive club of sorts. Hiking the Appalachian Trail would be far less so, as hundreds of people do that every year and probably hundreds more claim to have hiked the whole trail when, in reality, they cheated and only hiked part of it. But for those who do it, this would still be an experience that would always be with them.
     
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    @Kitty Carmel " Does anyone find doing things like this appealing?"

    Apparently, the climbers do. It has been quoted that they climb mountains "because they are there". I never understood whether they meant the mountains, or the climbers.

    Like any achievement of grave and deep human involvement in some unique activity, it remains that "beating" Everest must involve exceedingly deep personal commitment, both extreme will and monetary "dues". THe "fee" to climb Everest is about $45,000 and getting higher each year, unlike the mountain itself.

    When you own it, flaunt it's value!
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    @Kitty Carmel " Does anyone find doing things like this appealing?"

    It is in the human race, in its DNA to go beyond borders of any kind. If something can be done, it will be done such as climbing the highest mountain on earth, diving as deep as you can without (apnea diving) and with equipment, crossing deserts, BASE jumping, free climbing, paragliding, sailing and flying around the world non-stop and alone, jumping down from the stratosphere, (Baumgartner), going for the Hawaii ironman's title, crossing the Grand Canyon on a tightrope without any harness, etc.
    The human race would never have left the African savanna, setting out for the uncertain nor would they have crossed oceans in "nutshells" not knowing where they were going if they hadn't had that inner drive compelling - some of them - to go further and further.
    Maybe a case in point is the NASA campaign for recruiting volunteers who'd be willing to go on a Mars mission. More than 400, or even more, signed on immediately knowing petty well that the chances of a save return are not too high.
    All these things are not for me but they seem to be indispensable for certain males to feed their egos.
     
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    Some people are afraid of Heights.....I'm afraid of Widths.

    Hal
     
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    I have a sister, Alicia, who hiked Everest in March. Hiking a mountain, she tells me, is almost the same as climbing, but you don't have ropes. :)

    I have seen the pictures, and there are times the "hike" looks pretty sheer to me.

    She is 59 and has a job (which she created) at a multiple myeloma foundation. The job is called "Extreme Sports Fundraiser." So, my understanding is that it's sort of like when kids used to ask you to pledge money if they walked so many miles or danced for so many hours. She started doing marathons and when the adrenaline bonus stopped, she did bicycling long-distance. Like from San Francisco to Santa Fe.

    Then she hiked Mt. Fuji, Machu Pichu, Kilimanjaro, and finally Mt. Everest in a program she called "Moving Mountains for Multiple Myeloma."

    She explained to me they weren't going to the summit, but instead to the Nepal base camp. I thought "base camp" must be near the bottom - or base -- of the mountain. WRONG! It is 17,589 feet. It was a 14-day hike just going up. Three of her teammates had to be airlifted off of the mountain due to "altitude sickness." Again, I was mistaken. I figured it must be like car sickness. I was disabused of this idea when one of the three airlifted off the mountain explained to me that it was the sickness you get when your body's cells begin to die from hypoxia (or lack of oxygen.)

    I don't think she'll be climbing any more mountains. After all, what do you do after Everest? And secondly, it's apparently pretty darned cold on that mountain. I didn't hear her entire complaint because I live in Maine and it didn't sound THAT cold to me, but I did hear her say that the last night of the climb, she didn't bother to put on fresh clothes because of what she saw as the danger of freezing to death. She's back to bicycling.

    I babysat her dog while she was gone, and in return, she gave me a beautiful and very warm yak blanket. She also gave Ken a yak hat, which is supposed to be quite warm too.

    Here are a few photos from Everest.

    1. That's my sister with her hiking poles in the air.

    2. Mount Everest from just above the base camp.

    3. My sister and her sherpa.

    4. A stopping place for the night at the Village of Namche. Note the cow.

    5, Somewhere on the mountain.
     

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    I don't. I am always impressed by people who do it, but frankly never had the desire to do such a thing. In fact, there are days when I don't even try to go out to my car!

    But I understand the lure of adrenaline -- or dopamine, or endorphins, or any of those nifty chemicals which climbers, hikers, runners, etc. get the benefit of. And I suppose that's all the reason those people need.
     
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    Those are absolutely BEAUTIFUL pictures, @Michelle Anderson , and your sister is a very brave woman to go mountain climbing like she does ! It looks like she is having a great time doing this, and she will have lots of wonderful memories as well.
     
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    The chances of them never leaving earth, to travel to mars, is probably much higher!;):confused:o_O
     
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    Wives tend to do that. I was part of a skydiving team and I convinced my 2nd wife to come out and watch the competition. Long story short, after the competition she told me if I ever jumped again she would divorce me.
    I quit and somewhere down the line we got divorced anyway...………………

    But, back to climbing. If everything went as described and I could actually climb a mountain, it would be perfectly fine with me. But, from what I understand, there is a lot of Dangling rather than climbing so I think I will opt out.
     
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    It depends on where you climb whether there is "dangling". You can choose non-vertical technical climbs, such as some ice fields and rock faces, but there are more sheer cliffs. It is the overhangs that I couldn't deal with.
     
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    I have read that the Summit of Mt. Everest is littered with garbage, trash, and feces.

    (Those Sherpa guides sure are have no consideraton for natural beauty, do they?)

    That's all...
    Hal
     
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    I'd imagine it is. There are no public restrooms, and composting is a slow process in cold temperatures.
     
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