Cherokee Legend

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  1. Martin Alonzo

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    Cherokee Legend
    Do you know the legend of the Cherokee Indian youth's rite of Passage?

    His father takes him into the forest, blindfolds him an leaves him alone.He is required to sit on a stump the whole night and not remove the blindfold until the rays of the morning sun shine through it.He cannot cry out for help to anyone.
    Once he survives the night, he is a MAN.

    He cannot tell the other boys of this experience, because each lad must come into manhood on his own.

    The boy is naturally terrified. He can hear all kinds of noises. Wild beasts must surely be all around him . Maybe even some human might do him harm. The wind blew the grass and earth, and shook his stump, but he sarcastically, never removing the blindfold. It would be the only way he could become a man!
    Finally, after a horrific night the sun appeared and he removed his blindfold.
    It was then that he discovered his father sitting on the stump next to him.He had been at watch the entire night, protecting his son from harm.

    We, too, are never alone. Even when we don't know it, Creator and our ancestors are watching over us, Sitting on the stump beside us.When trouble comes, all we have to do is reach out to them.If you liked this story, pass it on. If not, you took off your blindfold before dawn.

    Moral of the story:
    Just because you can't see the Creator or our ancestors,
    Doesn't mean they are not there.
    "We walk by faith, not by sight."
     
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    Liked this post so much - thank you Martin :)
     
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    Thanks Patsy only wish all stories had a happy ending
     
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    I don't know that they still do, but the Boy Scouts of America used this same ritual for scouts who were initiated into the Order of the Arrow.
     
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    Our 'creators' are fast diminishing it seems. They came and went by the scores. All hail Zeus and Baʿal.
    Still a little faith won't kill yah.
     
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    In Greek mythology, it was not Zeus who is touted as the creator of man, but the god chained by Zeus, Prometheus. Ba'al was a fertility and weather god but the name in some of the antiquities applied the name as theonymic to all gods.

    I'm not attempting a debate, but somebody has to keep the mythological gods straight. Obviously they did a very bad job of it.
     
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  7. Patsy Faye

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    Yea you're right Bobby - its all a load of myth ......:rolleyes:.......................:p
     
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  8. Kalvin Mitnic

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    A myth is as good as a smile;)
    It doesn't matter if a defunct god or creator is denigrated because they just don't matter. The question is which god now or then ever mattered.
     
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    god doesn't matter, but God does.
     
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    All originally capitalized from Aries to Zeus but lost their followers and essentially their capital. So goes religion -so go Gods and gods.
     
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    Initially, @Kalvin Mitnic, this thread is not about whether or not you believe in the existence of God or Creationism.
    It concerns the Cherokee Legend and those things and customs which have derived from that legend.

    If you'll check out the religious board in this forum I believe you will see every well known member's name in there and whether they be Protestant, Catholic, Agnostic or Atheist you will see that through time, we learned that religion is not a debate but how each of us lives our lives. We've learned, for the most part, that there is room for all beliefs within our small but more than adequate community and we do it without attempting to " one up" or force our beliefs upon each other. It took time.

    Perhaps I am the one who dropped the ball and went off topic and for that I beg the starter of this thread, @Martin Alonzo's forgiveness. That said, I would suggest that if the existence of God is in question, you might start another thread in the religious area. Oh yeah, there are already a couple of them there....please do check them out.
     
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  12. Kalvin Mitnic

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    Legends occur in many religions. This is a good topic to discuss since some are quite interesting,analogous or completely nonsensical.
    I believe many are possibly founded on excess pf peyote, magic mushrooms or heat exhaustion from wandering in the desert. Some make for good reading though.
    http://www.native-languages.org/legends-turtle.htm
     
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    I like the Cherokee Legend. I had heard or read it before in my earlier days. Good stuff, Martin.
     
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    Read the story again because I love it so much
     
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  15. Hugh Dowling

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    How does the Cherokee Legend differ from the Hopi one...? I am assuming, of course, that THEY have a legend as well...I wouldn`t really know, as i`m not well versed in Native American folk lore.
     
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    I don't think the Indians have a sole claim to this analogy. I'm sure if one looks, many cultures have a version of the Cherokee legend.

    I'm not sure who said there were no more original stories, or for that matter original thoughts. That all stories have been told in many ways, and all thoughts have been tought before. They are only new to those of us who haven't heard or thought of such events before. :oops:
     
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  17. Hugh Dowling

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    The ancient legends of the Aborigines down here in Oz are quite unique, as well. The story of the ''Dreamtime''....Passed down through literally thousands of years.
     
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    Hello @Hugh Dowling , I've heard or read of your countries Dream Time, but with so much fiction out there, it's hard to know which story is real. If you know of a good book for us to grasp it's true meaning, I'd like to read it. :)
     
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  19. Hugh Dowling

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    Only THEY can know...and appreciate it`s true meaning, Ina. It`s beyond the understanding of the ''white fella''....
     
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