Censorship Coming

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  1. Martin Alonzo

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    Google, Face book, Twitter now want to censor for fake news.

    New censorship is coming for years people have started to realize that the news is bias and flawed.

    Was not long ago that main street media was telling about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Saddam Hussein was pulling children out of incubators and throwing them on the floor.

    After we found out we knew it was all a fabrication of the government to get the public permission to attack a sovereign country.

    People started to distrust the main street media and want them to tell the truth. It has got to a point that we now have websites who claim to do fact checks there again who is paying them?

    Now there is an outcry for no fake news and who is leading it but Google, Face book, Twitter.

    Sorry to surprise anyone but they are the elite. Do you want them to tell you what you can see and hear? Most fake news comes from the elite controlled MSM.

    I think the majority of people now are starting to be able to find fact from fiction if not they need to learn for their own protection.Please do not play their game.
     
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  2. Chrissy Cross

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    Well I'm all for stopping fake news sites because people who don't realize they are fake pass them on as truth and that's how lies become fact.
     
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  3. Cody Fousnaugh

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    I've never been the "gullible" type. I don't believe everything I read/hear. Only thing is, when researching something online, most people have to believe what they read, especially when it's the only info they can get for free...........like medical advice.

    If they want to censor things, go for it!
     
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  4. Martin Alonzo

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    So you believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. The people who gave you that information are the ones that are going to censor the news
     
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    Aren't they talking about actual fake news sites? There are quite a few.

    And yes, I believed he had weapons of mass destruction and I still probably do...he just moved them. He was a crazy dictator anyway...no loss.
     
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    So they are talking about CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC if that is so I would agree but that is not who they are going after.
     
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    You'll have to show me a link, Martin. When I hear fake news sites I think of the ones that are made to look like a real news site but it's really satire.
     
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  8. Martin Alonzo

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    Info wars is one of the ones on their list and it was more accurate than the MSM
    Facebook & Google Spread Fake News As Do Mainstream Media

     
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  9. Chrissy Cross

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    I'm not a fan of infowars so I really don't care what happens to it. I think both far right and far left leaning sites have their own agenda so I avoid both. The real truth lies somewhere in the middle in my opinion.

    Any major conspiracy theorists like he is I don't trust.
     
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    This, I have no doubt, is a real conspiracy. It began when congress gave the Internet to the United Nations. That was the setup. During the election campaign, we were hit with a barrage of fake news that read like Hillary Clinton infomercials from the mainstream media, as well as unconfirmed attacks against Donald Trump that were published with no investigation or fact-checking whatsoever. This fake news was intended solely to affect the results of the election.

    True, there were also several fake news sites that were trying to do the same, many of them conservative in nature, but I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the greater harm occurs when the mainstream media is publishing fake news than from an unfamiliar source. As far as fake news is concerned, the greater harm was done by the mainstream media, and it was done intentionally.

    As far as fake news is concerned, there were three general types:
    1. The mainstream media, which was publishing fake news intended to endorse the Hillary Clinton campaign and to harm the Donald Trump campaign.
    2. Sites that masquerading as regular media, using deceptive domains and formats to appear to be a regular newspaper, in order to deceive people into believing these were factual news stories.
    3. Spoof sites, like The Onion, which are intended for their comedic effect, but which are sometimes done well enough that many people believe them.
    After the election, a few newspapers, such as the New York Times, published mea culpas, admitting that they had been biased in their reporting of the presidential campaign, although not admitting to the fullness of their guilt. But immediately after that, they segued into a concern about the dangers of fake news sites. These were then joined by statements from Facebook, Twitter, Google, and others about setting up safeguards against these fake news sites so that future election campaigns would not be affected by them. Meanwhile, Democrat politicians and officials, such as President Obama, joined the campaign against fake news sites.

    However, when you look at the lists they have published, you will see that legitimate news sites with a conservative bias are included as fake news sites, along with conservative opinion sites. You will also see an absence of the liberal equivalent. In order words, Breitbart.com is considered a fake news site, while the Huffington Post is not. The Blaze is considered a fake news site while The Hill is not.

    While they are waving around their right hand, watch what their left hand is going, and you'll see that they are intending to set it up so that by the next election, the only fake news we will be able to readily access will be their own fake news sites, such as the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, etc.

    Twitter has already suspended the accounts of what the consider to be the alt-right, who are what used to simply be called conservatives.

    We're not just talking about Facebook here. When Google sets itself up as the arbiter between that which is true and that which is false, particularly when it comes to political issues, then you will not be able to find information online that differs from the political opinions of the liberals at Google. Oh to be sure, they have been manipulating their results all along, but these manipulations are frequently caught, and they are forced to put things back because people like to be able decide for themselves whether something is true or not.

    What they are trying to do here is to foment a popular call for the government to decide what's true and what's false, and to remove the false before it even comes before your eyes. That is indeed dangerous.
     
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    I think more people should check facts before they spread a story...opinions can be biased but facts can be checked.

    I was just reading about Paul Horner...and yes, I've seen some of the stories that were passed on as fact not just on Facebook but forums. Just because there is a YouTube video about something doesn't make it true...most of this is just using common sense.

    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/11/130288/paul-horner-facebook-fake-news
     
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    Even though I was fooled by one of his stories once, at least for a few minutes, I thought his were kind of funny. I enjoy The Onion too, but you know that the stories on The Onion are fake. When I come across one of these types of sites, I enjoy them because there is a sense of humor involved, and most everyone I follow on Facebook would let someone know if they had linked to a fake site. In fact, those who shared fake sites often were looked down upon for being too easily fooled. Given that it's so easy to share a site on Facebook, I've been caught a couple of times, and caught myself a few more times, quickly deleting something that I had shared before anyone noticed. I don't mind those.

    What I found annoying were the articles that were based on fake Wikileaks stuff because there was no humor in that. They were intended either to influence someone's opinion on the basis of documents that were fake, or to diminish the credibility of the very real stuff that Wikileaks was actually making available. They were just a waste of my time, in trying to verify them on Wikileaks. But then, I found that articles based on real Wikileaks documents nearly always linked to the source document, so I assumed that any article that didn't do that was fake.

    Of course, the most annoying of all was the mainstream media, who now wants to become one of the arbiters of truth, but who continue to feed us one lie after another, while refusing to even look into anything that doesn't fit the political agenda they are on. That is the larger problem.

    It goes beyond bias when they report things that are wholly unverified against one person in a campaign while refusing to to look into or acknowledge anything against the other. Evidence of real corruption was revealed in the Wikileaks documents but if it were left up to the mainstream media, no one would have ever heard of any of it.

    As far as Google's involvement in this, Julian Assange (Wikileaks) has a detailed but interesting article about Google's relationship with the Democrats and Democrat-controlled government, entitled, Google is Not What it Seems.
     
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  13. Chrissy Cross

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    I didn't share any posts in a long time on FB...political or anything else. I barely "liked" a few and those were usually by family.

    Yes, the onion was funny but you knew it was satire...there was no trying to deceive anybody involved.

    I am just getting fed up with everything online and am very happy to be going to visit family and be preoccupied with that.
     
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    I can see censorship when it comes to child pornography or promoting hate but after that it is buyer beware and be your own censor. Giving a multination conglomerate the ability to tell you what is true and what is not is the craziest think a person could do. It is pretty hard to make a good judgement when you only hear one side of a discussion and that what they don’t want you to have their side. They just went through an election with a great deal of the population only listening to MSM and then telling you who is right for the US president.
     
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