Back To The Salt Mines

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    When I was a kid, we would drive by a place in the middle of town almost, that looked like a huge swamp, with little short derricks all over. My father said it was a salt mine. I was skeptical, but never dared question. There was no internet back then, so now I'm wondering if it was true, or was he pulling my leg. There is no picture of that place. :(

    Salt deposits across the U.S., so it's possible. NE Ohio is covered.

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    I could not find any picture that looked even close to what I remember. Modern salt mine in Detroit is the closest.

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    Old picture of elaborate bamboo pipelines sending natural gas to operate salt mines in China.

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    Does anyone remember salt mines?
     
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    We had brine wells in the area where I grew up.
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    Before that, they used solar vats and brine houses with boilers to evaporate the water from salt springs and produce salt. They had a big bell on the roof of a local store that was rung when it looked like rain and all of the salt workers would scramble to put covers over the solar vats. The store was eventually transformed into a modern dairy store but the bell is still on the roof.

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    Thank you! Those look similar except it was flat land, and the derricks were shorter. So far the only fibs I've caught my parents in are Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. :D
     
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    I believe "Salt Flats", as well as "dry lakes" are actually deposits of many minerals, including "salt"; there are technically zillions of salts, by the chemical definition. I applied for "Plant Engineer" with Kerr-McGee Corp. in Trona, CA. They "mine" salts from below the surface by forcing hot water under pressure into holes bored deeply into the lakebed. The place was eerie to behold, in the middle of absolutely nowhere, to the extent that the plant generated it's own electrical power! It looks like this:

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    Trona, California abuts northwest of the dry Searles Lake bed.

    "Searles Lake is an endorheic dry lake in the Searles Valley of the Mojave Desert, in northwestern San Bernardino County, California.

    The mining community of Trona is on its western shore. The evaporite basin is approximately 19 km (12 mi) long and 13 km (8.1 mi) at its widest point, yielding 1.7 million tons annually of industrial minerals within the basin to the Searles Valley Minerals mining operations. Searles Lake is bounded by the Argus and Slate Mountains."

    "Searles Lake is a huge resource of sodium and potassium minerals of the carbonate, sulfate, borate and halide classes of mineralogy. The manufacture of industrial minerals involves a complex solution mining operation in which naturally occurring brines are pumped from wells completed in several salt beds. The brine wells range in depth from near-surface to over 100 meters below the salt pan. A network of production wells, injection wells, solar ponds and piping are used in the production and treatment of the brines."

    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Searles_Lake

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    Searles Lake playa bounded by the Argus and Slate Mountains

    Note that white deposit, the "lake", is approximately 12 miles by 8 miles, a huge area!

    I was offered a job at a level of compensation I deemed inadequate.
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    "I've got to get back to the salt mine" is a saying often used in my lpart of the world to indicate a person has to get back to work, perhaps in an undesirable job.
     
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    I have been there. It is off the main Highway east of El Paso. I have driven passed it numerous times. Literally out in the middle of nowhere. A few families lived in Salt Flat who worked in the salt business. South of Salt Flat is ranch country.
     
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    When it rains, it pours!
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    I remember seeing the salt flats just outside of Salt Lake City as a kid, from a car window, either 1953 or 1955. This picture from 2018 Google Streetview is exactly how it looked back then.

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    I think it was close to the Bonneville Speedway, but you couldn't see that from the highway.

    Has anyone been to the Speedway?
     
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    Never been to the Speedway. Driven past the Salt Lake at Salt Lake City, Utah several times. Never paid much attention to it. I have been four hundred feet down in a salt mine in New Mexico as an Area Sales manager. Usually there are salt mines near about where potash mines are located, or so I've been told by the potash people.
     
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    Beautiful scenes in that salt mine, and a nice James Taylor song to boot. I've never heard that one before. Ananas in French means "pineapple." :cool: ... (Looked it up. I don't speak French)
     
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    Gee whiz I miss these.:rolleyes: (Salt spreader).

     
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    The Fascinating Early History of Salt
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    "In Northern Europe, salt was being harvested as early as 400 BC in mines outside of the Austrian mountain town of Salzburg (meaning literally “salt town.”) Of Celtic descent, these ancient Alpine salt miners were often caught inside their unstable caves when water and other forces caused the walls to shift and collapse. Later salt miners would find their shoes, clothes and bodies well preserved:

    In the year 1573 . . . a man, 9 hand spans in length, with flesh, legs, hair, beard and clothing in a state of non-decay, although somewhat flattened, the skin a smoky brown color, yellow and hard like codfish, was dug out of the Tuermberg mountain . . . ."
     
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    Pickled Salzburgers?
     
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    I lived not to far from here and would travel through the town every time heading north for fishing
    The world's largest salt mine
     
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    Thanks for the video, Martin. We used to go fishing in Ontario in the summers, north of Peterborough.
     
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    We have salt mines here in Louisiana. I can still remember when my family moved to South Carolina and I did a Science Project on a salt mine here in LA. I wrote to the salt mine and was sent all kinds of samples, etc. to use in my Science Project and I was so excited because I got an A+ on it. :)

    The video is about a salt mine disaster caused by a drilling rig here in Louisiana.
     
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