At Least 31 Killed In Brussels Bombings

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  1. Chrissy Cross

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    @Yvonne Smith , yes, after something like this happens you often read that it was staged or it's not the right video or picture but maybe since it's chaos at the scene, news people need some kind of footage to show.

    Everything is fake now, so I guess you have to believe what is the most consistent in all news outlets.

    I'm pretty sure there was a terrorist attack in Belgium and that's the main point.

    Of course with iPhones, almost everything is caught on camera or video if someone is near the scene.

    These are pics taken even before the news gets there.
     
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    @Shirley Martin I saw the same thing said about American airports, security has been tightened. I didn't even bother to click to see what they were tightening, since I don't plan on traveling any time soon.

    I understand the news stations wanting to be first with the news, and pictures and videos add depth and emotion to stories, but I'd rather not see them than see ones from other such events. I'd prefer to see plain text, then actual pictures or videos when they're available. Showing pictures and videos of other similar types of events simply fuels the fire and encourages conspiracy theories that events were faked and we're being controlled by particular agendas.
     
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    No, since the Islam follower Richard Reid the shoe bomber tried to blow up an American plane in 2001.. security has been very much tighter at airports in the UK....not quite as tight as Russia, but probably similar to the USA...X ray machines, banned items in hand and hold luggage, scanners...security, and police with guns and sniffer dogs....but of course this attack was at the check in desks in Belgium, so unless we all change to the Russian system of X rays before entering the building, it's clear it could happen again!!...and of course more people died on the train...

    These people are absolutely indiscriminate. trains, tubes, buses, planes, coffee shops... even a newspaper editorial suite... :(
     
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    I'm not understanding the point here, Yvonne. Is it that the terror attack was not true?

    CNN is fairly liberal, terror attacks aren't in their best interests. Think it benefits Trump supporters more than anything as he wants to keep terrorists out of our country. Am I missing the point?
     
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    We also need a reality check after these incidents they increase security and what does that mean less freedom for you. There are more people killed by bee stings or peanut allergies than by terrorists. How many terrorists have been stopped in the US after all the security you have to go through and all your freedom you had to give up to get it. They have an I-phone from some terrorist and now they want the key to unlock all i-phones so they can spy on everyone. MacAfee the person who made a famous antivirus program said he would get the information off the phone for the government but that is not what they wanted. They want a way to spy on all. I am more afraid of the government than a terrorist.
     
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    I disagree, I'd rather go through security than be blown up an on airplane. I also have nothing to hide so doesn't bother me to be spied on at all.

    There will be more and more attacks, so the odds may change Alfonso. Especially now with all the Unvetted refugees that have made it to Europe.
     
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    Israel's Ben Gurian airport security is top notch. I can't recall any of Israels planes being hijacked, but maybe I just forgot. It seems this country lies in the most dangerous area in the world. How do they keep their airports so comparatively safe?
     
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    They were saying on the news yesterday that Brussels police are being criticized for lack of investigation. They knew this was coming. The biggest complaint was ...not enough night raids.

    The police certainly found the apartment or base, used by the terrorists the very same day as the bombings. Coincidence?
     
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    Over 3,000 people died at Pearl Harbour and they now know that the government knew and did nothing. I don’t know just how many people died at and after Vietnam War all started on a lie from the government. I don’t know how many died in Iraq on a lie started by the government. They were warned about 911 and did nothing and even refuse to let the people see the whole 911 report. The third building that fell on 911 is not in the report. You think these people are there to protect you?
     
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    terrorists use this. its called pallywood
     
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    my concern is more with these so called immigrants Obama is letting in our country. undocumented. no women or children but young men of military age. he's making it easy for ISIS to add they're killers in these groups and trying to force states to accept them. many of which have told him where to stick that.
     
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    I do believe Jihad is the reason for these attacks. I have no idea why Muslims are not watched closely for terrorist activity in the countries who give them refuge. I see nothing good to come by not insisting people who come to a country must learn to live and work in the existing culture. It doesn't mean they can't celebrate their own culture...but the idea they should become a force apart would be a divisive dynamic anywhere.

    I realize Jihad is also carried out by actual citizens in a country as well....and Jihad..as I understand it means "struggle" and is a concept within the Muslim faith which is not always violent... The Extremists have made Jihad a violent struggle against all who don't agree with "them"..even other Muslims.
     
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    we have Jihad training camps right here
     
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    Well, I have no idea about that, Gary..but I guess I'd have to research your source..Steven Emerson...to find it credible. :)
     
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    I'm sure we have plenty in the US, certainly don't need more coming in. So far weve been lucky except for San Bernadino and the Boston Marathon but I have a feeling more are coming. Hoping our govt is doing the best they can at catching them before a strike.
     
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    I believe the majority of refugees are moderate Muslims who just want to get on with their lives, which they can't do in their own country, all we hear about on the media are the extremist jihad's who have chosen to read and interpret the Qur'an in a certain way, and wish to turn the clock back a couple of centuries.
    How we deal with the resulting terrorism is not going to be easy nor I fear will it happen very soon, we are very vulnerable to these extremists as they are prepared to die in order to kill and destroy what they see as the enemy of Islam.

    I see the big problem regarding the integration of Muslim refugees as the clash of cultures, especially concerning the treatment of women, and the generally open nature of Western democracy.
     
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    I agree with you. I absolutely do not believe all Muslims are terrorists. I think there are culture clashes obviously...and that has to be addressed. It's obvious there are no easy answers.
     
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    Chrissy

    I've read those that you are talking about Martin and also the facts debunking them.

    Please let me know where you found them because there are a lot of pages that have been classified by the government and will not release them if you where I can find them I would like to know.
     
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    He was way off track when he made comments about Birmingham UK having no go areas full of Muslims.

    Emerson's credibility was challenged when he made claims on television concerning the city of Birmingham which led British Prime Minister David Cameron to say that Emerson is "clearly a complete idiot."The British broadcasting regulator Ofcom subsequently censured Fox News for airing the comments, which they characterised as "materially misleading" and "a serious breach for a current affairs programme".

    Some of Emerson's statements related to Muslims in the US and Europe have been criticized for inaccuracies,and he has been described as a "Islamophobe" and as a discredited "terrorism expert
     
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    Thank you for that input..I have been reading about him and he doesn't seem entirely accurate or credible.
     
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    He also looks kind of wax polished :rolleyes: ......................sorry couldn't resist that remark ;)

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    I read them awhile ago, Martin...would have to search.
     
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