Anything Technically Wrong With The Us Election Procedure?

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  1. Hoot Crawford

    Hoot Crawford Veteran Member
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    If you say so, but here's what the CDC website says about it:

    On December 20, 2019, Congress raised the federal MLSA for tobacco products from 18 to 21 years. This legislation, known as Tobacco 21 or T21, became effective immediately, and it is now illegal for a retailer to sell any tobacco product – including cigarettes, cigars, and e-cigarettes – to anyone younger than 21 years.8 The new federal MLSA applies to all retail establishments and people with no exceptions; it applies to retailers in all states, DC, all US territories, and on tribal lands. There is no exemption for active duty military personnel or military veterans between the ages of 18 and 20 years,8 as had previously existed in some states.

    Here's a link to the website for more detail.
    https://www.cdc.gov/statesystem/factsheets/mlsa/Minimum-Legal-Sales-Age.html
     
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  2. Beth Gallagher

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    I can remember running into a store when I was about 8 to buy a pack of cigarettes for my mom. :D No one batted an eye. This country has turned into a damn nanny-state.
     
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    The Federal law does not pre-empt a state’s ability to make their own laws concerning tobacco and alcohol usage. The government can however threaten to pull some government funded initiatives. Same as as selling pot.

    Back to the voter thing, there are probably millions of people who shouldn’t be allowed near a voting booth just because of their inability to do their own investigative work and reason with a modicum of responsibility.
    Example: As one lady on The View said about Governor Newson, (paraphrased): He’s Hot and if he ran for President I’d vote for him.

    But, what the heck. If folks on welfare shouldn’t vote then maybe people who watched too much CNN or FOX shouldn’t be allowed to vote and maybe just make it full swing and only old white guys like us should be allowed to vote?
    Uh-oh. Not me. I’m a Christian so maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either. Ya know, that pesky church and state thing?

    How about if we just fix the darned voting process and make it a one day affair at the booths like it used to be and be done with it?
    Show an I.D., hit the booth and it’s counted.
     
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  4. Hoot Crawford

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    Again, I'm sure you know better than the CDC, which says states can have more stringent rules, but 21 is the minimum, no exceptions. Also conflating being on welfare with watching CNN / FOX doesn't really make much sense to me, since I'm not on welfare and do not watch CNN or FOX.

    Lastly, as a suggestion, I say let the folks who run the mega lotteries handle the elections. They can sell a bazillion tickets and by the next morning we know if we had a winner and where the ticket was sold. Just sayin'
     
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    If you could get everybody to vote by machine, I'm sure the results would come in much faster. If all the machines are tied together across the state or country, then there is a chance of mischief. They purposely don't tie voting machines together in large networks for that reason.
     
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    I think the Founders were wise when they paced the age for both military service and voting at 21 years. It was an age when most matured emotionally and mentally faster than they do now and the life span was shorter. I believe that machine voting should generate a paper ballot that you can review to make sure your vote is recorded correctly and that those ballots are never moved from the site where they were cast. I also believe that photo IDs should be required, you should only be able to vote once, and that dead people should be denied the vote.
     
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  7. Richard Joseph

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    It is a law, they have to comply, it is not a big bully tactic to comply or face revenue sharing cuts as in the Federal minimum drinking age of 21, as in South Dakota v. Dole. That was not a mandatory compliance by force of law.
     
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    I reckon that from the start of the entire system/process, fraud and bribery are a very integral, basic part of the process so that it always has been controllable, the outcome always pre-determined , one or many ways.

    Because that was never the goal.

    Perhaps people who knew all along the whole process is rigged did not try at all to suppress turnout before. It did not matter to them, nor to anyone, really, how many people voted - it was all pre-determined and just a lot of lolly-gagging for show./no matter which 'side' was voted for, it did not/does not/ matter/ .....
     
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