Now, Trump Is Stealing The Mail Trucks?

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  1. Bobby Cole

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    My goodness Pete. You Really believe that tow trucks are going around and kidnapping mail trucks all in the name of conservative politics?
     
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    Yes I do! Not exactly, but I know Dejoy is up to no good. What would be the hurt to put any changes to policy, equipment, personnel, and practices on hold till Jan 1 or at least after the election? Remember,"avoid any possible APPEARANCE of sin!"
    Would you have any objection to that?
     
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    The only thing that Dejoy has mandated in the month his has had the job is to insist that the carriers deliver at the beginning of their shift.
    And......let’s be very clear. The postal department you retired from, moreover, the Board of Governors of that postal service you retired from Voted Dejoy into office unanimously.........not Donald Trump.

    And,.....let’s be very clear about another thing. I have packages that have been sitting on the pallet, at the post office, since last week. My postal carrier informed me yesterday that there are about 7 pallets that have been sitting there and there are more to come because the guys in the back aren’t breaking them down.
    Postal workers, who are letting packages and mail that people have PAID the postal service to deliver, sit on pallets just to make a political point: A Democrat, Biden backing point at that.
    With that in mind, how can I trust the postal service to do the right thing during an election when I can’t trust them to put their political stance aside and do what they are getting paid to do on a daily basis?

    And.....to be perfectly clear, if you really believe that there are tow trucks assigned by the Republican party to go around and pick up fully functioning mail trucks full of mail......you seriously need to amp up on the tyrosine. It was a Karen that pulled that trigger and you guys are falling for it.

    Now, and lastly Pete, when you use Biblical terminology, be ready to defend your stance with Biblical terminology. Your abstract statement regarding the appearance of sin is almost ludicrous especially because you have not provided the premise that your are drawing from.
     
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    Bob you are losing it. I don't give a damn what your local guys are telling you they are lying. In no world would a craft employee be permitted to curtail mail, especially parcels. If any parcels are being delayed it is under direction of management
    The postal service is staffed by mostly veterans and runs like a military organization. The floor supervisor are required each day after "all up" to make a report of mail in the building at the beginning of the shift,quantity and type of mail sorted and distributed to carriers during the shift. Most important is the Curtailed mail count. Used to be until DeJoy here was never any first class mail on that list.Just catalogs and "occies" mail addressed to occupant. This has now changed.

    You conveniently ignored the part about just holding off until January, surely not a crippling blow.
    You know exactly zip diddly dog doo about the inner workings of the post office.
    Your just so desperate to maintain your status quo and your disrespect for me that you refuse to believe anything even when it is before your eyes.
    DeJoy is screwing thing up and intentionally.
    The Post Office is designed to run on overtime. Paying overtime is cheaper than hiring a full employee. The office I worked in had 56 routes, 5 of them were left vacant with no assigned carrier. Management knows that if it is a light mail day that they can "pivot" portions of the vacant routes to other carriers, they also know that this will entail overtime which they have calculated for.
    DeJoy is leaving first class mail on the floor. That never happens, Our job #1 was to make absolutely sure without( fricken fail) that there was not even a single first class post card left. Failure to accomplish that was cause for disciplinary action. Never did a truck leave until the carriers were all back and every single piece of collected mail was loaded and the truck sealed.
    Third class mail,Catalogs,Flyers advertising mail came in with normally a three day delivery window. Management,(never a carrier or clerk) could authorize another two days curtailment if necessary, which had to be documented.

    You are also wrong about DeJoy Mandating all mail being delivered at the beginning of the shift. Either the reporter was wrong or you read it wrong. How can you deliver mail at the beginning of the shift,?There is o mail prepared at the beginning of the shift.
    Carriers usually depending on the office r route show up between 7 and 9. Trucks with mail have been arriving through out the night,clerks and mailhandlers arrive around 4am to manually sort mail. Mostly parcels and flats as most letters are DPS(delivery Point Sequenced) and are received on the last truck of the day. During this time carriers will case available mail, do paperwork (change of address,hold orders, special orders)get keys and accountable mail from the cage, write up delivery slips.
    After mail is cased up and tied out trucks were loaded and we hit the streets

    Last thing really rich you slamming me for using your phraseology really rich.
    Appearance of sin? committing election fraud is the sin
    Shenanigans going on in the PO sure appear to be sin to me.
    You Christian got a copy right on that phrase? Some kind of trademark? No?
    Well I guess I will feel free to use it whenever it seems proper,Like in thisand the other post.
     
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    Bobby if you think your carrier was telling the truth about pallets of mail, someone is committing a crime.
    I urge you to contact the Postal Inspection Service to report it @ 1-877-876-2455
    If you are not willing to do it please let me know the office and branch and I will be happy to do it for you.
     
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    They no longer answer their phones, @Peter Renfro . When they come by with my medication and then say they do not have it, or we are expecting something from Amazon (that is already several days late), and then we get a notice that they “were unable to deliver” the package and it is being held at the Post Office.
    When you call the local number, it just rings and rings, not even an answering machine. The 877 number goes to a push the button answering message number, and you can not speak to a human being on that one either. You have to drive down to the post office if you want to talk with someone.
    I have been through this several times.

    I am still waiting for my package of blackberry plants to arrive.
    They came from Illinois, then went to Chattanooga (which is only a few hours from Huntsville), and I thought they would be getting here by yesterday, because they were in Chattanooga last Thursday.
    Nope, when I checked yesterday, they are now somewhere in Missippi, hours west of us ! No updates yet today, but those poor berries have been traveling in the heat for a week already, and now expected to arrive on Thursday (maybe?).
    What I am trying to say, is that if the packages didn’t get sent all over the place before being delivered, it would not cost so much to get them to their destination.
    My blackberries are near Memphis, but on the Mississippi side, and will now probably go all the way south to Birmingham before making their way back here to Huntsville.
    I will be lucky to have them by this weekend, and even luckier if the poor little berry plants are still alive.
     
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    Peter, Peter, Peter....The “slamming” as you so eloquently stated is a pure and simple thing. First, look into the mirror, pluck the whole plank out of your own eye before noticing the sliver in another’s eye, but even that said, if you still wish to remove that sliver, I do believe that looking in the wrong eye might be a case of flawed judgment. Lastly, if you do not believe in Biblical principles to begin with, why are you so offended by the use of them?
    But again, if you wish to write about Biblical principles, just be prepared to defend your premise with Biblical principles.

    Where a “sin”, if it is a sin, is located is when the postal service recently said that they are ready and willing to handle mail in voting when in fact, they aren’t handling the regular mail now.
    So far as the mail service being based on overtime, is there a real reason why it cannot be run as any other real business?

    Okay, about the Postmaster General. Again, Trump didn’t elect him, your board of governors did. To me, if there is any sin it might be in the direction of expecting someone who has never been in the business to come in an heal all the problems in the first month of a job. Somehow, your board of governors did or he wouldn’t have been elected. As far as what you believe to be true, you’ll have to work that out with your board of governors.

    Now Peter, concerning your obvious paranoia about me respecting you or rather “disrespecting” you.
    I am not anxious to disrespect anyone. Matter of fact, I do not disrespect anyone but there those times when either I do not show respect or someone doesn’t glean the respect they believe they deserve.
    Now, If you wish to be respected, then be respectful.

    Note and an oh Yeah: Our mail service still doesn’t get here until around 5:30 P.M. even with the leave it until tomorrow edict so..................
     
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    The Post Office is not the same these days for sure. We can't trust our Mail person to pick up or deliver our mail...she seems to take a break whenever she feels like it. I've reported this a number of times and she straightens up for a while and then goes right back to doing what she wants to do.
     
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    "I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy will say, according to the draft release, adding that the changes are to "avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail," according to the draft statement seen by Rueters.
    Well this is good News.
     
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    Compare the number of letters and other first-class mail that you sent each year a couple of decades ago to your use of the post office today, and you'll know why the US Postal Service is not viable as a business. It's been a few years since I've sent a first-class letter, and it was known as snail mail long before Trump took office. People use UPS or FedEx for packages because they're more reliable and a whole lot cheaper. Other than the 32-cent dividend checks that I receive each quarter from my stock in International Paper, and a few magazines that I subscribe to, I can't think of anything that I have received in recent years that didn't go directly into the shredder. Mostly, the USPS exists to deliver junk mail.
     
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    Very True Ken except that we have no control who is going to deliver packages bought on Amazon.
    And speaking of, it’s nearly 1700 hrs and the mail truck just went by and my mail carrier gave me a huge wave and a smile like she always does but this time sans our mail.
    According to the tracking, our packages have been sitting on the floor in the back of the post office since Sat. at 04:41.

    Hmmmm.....maybe they read my review on Yelp last night?
     
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    I can't remember the last time I received a package from USPS. Maybe something from eBay but I don't often buy stuff from eBay.
     
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    Amazon and UPS both have contracts with the USPS. The UPS will hand off to the USPS and as a matter of fact, my regular UPS driver told me yesterday that they’re picking stuff back up again that they delivered to the USPS.
    And....the USPS has a contract with Amazon for Sunday package deliveries to boot which, never got done this last Sunday.
    In its very essence, the postal service around here is on strike without saying they’re on strike.
     
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    So I've heard. I don't think they do that here anymore. In fact, UPS comes twice a day sometimes. Amazon will sometimes indicate a Sunday delivery, but it always changes to Monday. I've never gotten anything on a Sunday.
     
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