This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
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    The medical system has already said anyone dying with the virus and if the THINK the person had the virus their death would be marked as a covid death. Don't how many flu patients died this year but looking at the statistic in the middle of covid no more flue deaths. So if you hear a thirty year old died of covid you need to ask was he in a car accident as well or did he just off a cliff as well. Makes you wonder what you can believe anymore.
     
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  2. Thomas Stearn

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    Sounds as though you didn't read the link.
     
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  3. Martin Alonzo

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    Your assumption was wrong I read it only to find a person died and they even admit that the over all cases have other problems. Which did she die from they admit that whatever it was if her had the virus it would be marked as covid death.
     
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  4. Ken Anderson

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    The story does sound a bit too pat to be believable but, while there is good reason to be skeptical about the panic, reasonable people do not believe that the virus itself is a hoax. Whether they released it intentionally or whether it went public due to an error in the Wuhan laboratory, I don't know, but it's doubtful that this was a naturally developed virus and the response to is manufactured for political purposes. I also wouldn't be at all surprised if those who are benefiting from the upheaval were intentionally spreading it.

    However, San Antonio is not so far from the border. It's not as close to the border as the Rio Grande Valley, where I lived for more than twenty years, but people from the Valley travel to San Antionio pretty regularly. When I lived there, it was before the Wuhan Virus, but the place was ripe with third-world diseases, given that there were no effective border control efforts in place. As I have mentioned, I came into contact with tuberculosis while I was there, and still test positive for it on the skin test, although I have never had TB. But other diseases that regular Americans no longer have to worry about, such as smallpox, were not unusual there, and others that most of us have never even heard of.
     
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  5. Martin Alonzo

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  6. Beth Gallagher

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    I still see no point whatsoever in random testing, especially of people with no symptoms. Why bother? They need to stop focusing on testing and work harder on a vaccine.
     
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  7. Martin Alonzo

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    Beth vaccines??? The controversy about vaccines is getting louder every day. The whole vaccine industry was going to go out of business because of the law suits being brought by injured people. The manufactures convinced the government to give them protection from law suits. So after that they could put anything into the vaccine and still make a good profit. If we take away their protection and see if any want to make vaccines after that. If they did you know it would be safe PS there has never been a successful corona virus vaccine .
     
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  8. Beth Gallagher

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    Controversy or not, there is a huge body of research aimed at a vaccine for Covid-19 worldwide.
     
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  9. Martin Alonzo

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    The corona virus mutates so fast that by the time a vaccine comes out it is out of date. Even if they convince people to get it. Next year they will need another because of the virus mutating. Like the flu each year they guess as to how it might mutate and then make a vaccine. Gates just want to jab you with something and then bring out his vaccine card to stop you from doing anything unless you have it welcome to 1984
     
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  10. Ken Anderson

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    There will be a vaccine, but there is unlikely to be an effective vaccine. Waiting for a cure is an unrealistic goal and one that is unlikely to remain beyond the election.
     
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  11. Nancy Hart

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    Just think, if everyone had paid attention to how they handled things in New York, and we had organized the production and distribution of tests and PPE's. Other states could have nipped this thing in the bud, and we would have this under control by now. There would be few enough cases so that contact tracing could have kept it under control. There was plenty of time.

    As it is now, contact tracing is out of the question, imo. And New York has to protect itself again, this time from residents from the new hot spot states. Schools could probably have open up in the fall. It's been like reinventing the wheel all over again (Yogi Berra? ;)).

     
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  12. Ken Anderson

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    Do you think New York handled it correctly?
     
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  13. Nancy Hart

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    Given that NY was pretty much left to fend for itself concerning resources at the beginning, and that some cases of virus apparently came from Europe as well as Asia, Yes. Many other states were not at the same point yet for massive lockdowns, but those other states could have introduced tracing early when cases were low. They had warning.
     
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  14. Ken Anderson

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    Forcing nursing homes to accept COVID-19 patients wasn't a problem then? That's where a lot of their deaths came from.
     
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  15. Babs Hunt

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    Gee I really hope you're kidding Nancy...New York is the last place I'd look to how they handle anything! Your Governor and Mayor are insane!
     
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