This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Ken Anderson

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    I have heard that from a few people who are in the medical field, even so far as changing death certificates to give the cause of death as COVID-19 rather than what they actually died of. I don't know about car accidents, though, but with causes of deaths that the virus may have exacerbated. Just what the conspiracy is, I don't know, but they want that number high.
     
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    As of today, Friday the 3rd, our Colorado Governor is requesting, but not an Order, for everyone in the state to wear a cloth mask when going to grocery store or other essential place. Now, personally, I seriously doubt there will be many, if any, Millennials, Gen X/Y or even many Seniors that will follow that request. Even though there have been Millennials, Gen X/Y and multiple Seniors get the virus and some die from it, there are those that don't think they will get it. So, I'm fairly sure they won't follow this "face mask" request by the Governor.

    We now have cloth masks and will be wearing them when we go to the grocery store.
     
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    There is good news, finally. Great news. In response to the horrible crisis that our country is facing due to a virus that was imported here from China, the Democrats are going to take action. Adam Schiff has announced that he is assembling a committee to look into the impeachment of Donald Trump over the Coronavirus. Finally, we can come out from under our beds. Someone is taking effective action. The Democrats have the situation well at hand.
     
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  4. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Definitely not Trumps fault!! Then again, someone in the government has to be blamed, right?
     
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    I have been up a while and found myself listening to some of the (very highly politicized) press talks concerning Covid-19 AKA, the Chinese virus.
    As I listened, I found that much of the talk, whether positive or negative was filled with rhetoric and with little truth to it.

    For one, they keep saying that there will be a cure. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but mankind has never produced a cure for anything.
    Yes, there are serums which act as a preventative measure and there are also ways to help the human body do its job and maybe even kill some active foreign bacteria but overall, nothing has ever been absolutely eradicated via medicine.
    This little beast, Covid-19 is here and just like AIDS and a few other dangerous maladies, now that it has been introduced to mankind on a global scale, it is here to stay. If someone does come up with a cure for it, it will be history in the making because it will be a first.

    A second thing is that the word Pandemic is really keeping people in a panic and rightfully so, the media has made this one word its biggest money maker yet. By definition, the word simply means a disease that is prevalent either in a whole country or globally. Granted, it is a new disease and yes, it has managed to spread throughout most of the world but the media has made the word pandemic to mean something akin to the black plague when in fact, the common cold, influenza, small pox, chicken pox, mumps and herpes (among others) are indeed and by definition, pandemics. All diseases that if handled improperly, can be deadly.
    Note: I would like to add stupidity to the list of pandemics but unfortunately, there will never be a cure for it and although to a very large degree it certainly seems to be comunicable, it’s not really considered a disease.

    It’s a given that Covid-19 is a bad virus and I’m not trying to make light of it. Certainly, no one wants to learn the hard way like the American Natives did when small pox was first introduced to them or like the natives in Ekuk, Alaska which were totally wiped out when whomever brought influenza with them.
    The fact is that I certainly do not wish to catch the thing and my wife and I are taking some measures to keep from catching it but beyond the mandates instituted by the Feds and State governments, I am not going to allow a bunch of buzz words created and constantly repeated to stir up fear make me lose that which I am totally responsible for: my faith, my wife and myself and the ability to reason through a problem.
    Controlled fear is a good thing but absolute fear mixed with panic strips a person of reason and the capability to defeat an adversary and if the media had its way, that is the condition they in the media would have us conditioned.

    Bottom line is that I will indeed pray for those who are infected and pray for protection against the virus but beyond the normal preventative measures, I am going to enjoy life and this absolutely beautiful morning.
     
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  6. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Yes, Bobby, things have gotten very contradictory in-between the White House politicians and the scientists/doctors. Just what to believe and not believe, is the question.
     
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    We got up at 6:30AM to get to our local grocery store to simply...……."get it over with". Got most everything we needed. Did wear the virus protection masks we were given by our maintenance lady. Very few people in the store, but some. Again, I had to remind a store employee that the container of the disinfectant wipes was out at the door (to clean the carts with) I done the same thing last Tuesday when we went there. . I would think one of the employees would keep an eye on it to see when it runs out and refill it immediately.

    So, we are doing fine. Watching tv, movies we have and other things inside. Although, we really hate it when the temp hits 72 in a couple of days. Will love the temperature, but being the way it is, can't enjoy the outside with this virus thing going on.
     
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  8. Thomas Stearn

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    Strictly speaking, Bobby, COVID-19 is not the virus, SARS-CoV-2 is, which can cause the disease of the lungs called COVID-19, which is only thing relevant about the virus. Without that complication, the human body can contain the virus.

    Pandemics usually start as epidemics and can then spread fast across the globe, which is what's been happening in the case of COVID-19. There have been a couple of flu pandemics and also the Black Death was a pandemic by definition.

    My impression is that saying there may be a "cure" simply means that mankind can somehow cope with it as it managed to do with other threats caused by viruses or bacteria. Once it's there, the virus will stay, no doubt, but a vax and medication can make it less contagious and lethal.
     
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    Can't you enjoy the outside just being together with your wife, i.e., not meeting other people socially? That's what millions of people have been doing here and will be doing over the Easter holidays.
     
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    Our outside activities are much more of boating and fishing, not just taking a walk. Our boat is still winterized and we only fish from that boat. And, on top of that, millions of people don't live in Colorado where it's still wintertime yet. During winters here, we are the "indoor" type anyway. When we lived in northeastern Florida, believe it or not, we were the same way during so-called "Florida winters".

    Remember, we live in an apartment complex, not in a house with a backyard.
     
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    Ok, now it sounds like it's because of the weather or the season and not the virus that you can't enjoy nature.
    Enjoying the outside is possible without catching the virus if you keep a safe distance to other people. That was my point.
     
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    Time for a bit of a rant.
    Whilst I do like the idea that the big box stores like Lowes, Home Depot and Walmart remain open, it seems that all of the small mom and pop competitive stores are closed.
    I went to my favorite hardware and lumber place a couple of days ago and yup, they were closed down since they are after all, non-essential especially in light of the fact that the big stores are allowed to stay open.
    The place has it’s roots all the way back to the Korean War when they used to make wooden ammo boxes for the arsenal. Now, Steve (the owner) only has 3 employees plus his wife which would seem to meet with the “social distancing” thing but nope, closed for the duration and maybe, for good.
    Yeah, the place is a little over priced but it feeds all 5 people plus pays the utilities and land taxes and that’s about all the octogenarian owner really wants for the rest of his days but with the shut down, he may be retiring for good.
     
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    This is the literal meaning of the popular phrase!
    Hal
     
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    We have the same problem here in Maine. The mom&pop operations are deemed non-essential while the big box stores are necessary. Lot of places will never re-open.
     
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    COVID-19: More Great News
     
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