Mexican President Urges U S Action On Gun Control

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  1. Bess Barber

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    Damn....it's 7 a.m. Thanks, it took me a week to get that song out of my head when it dropped & now....it's back. :D
     
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    Gun control is not the issue. Mental illness and psychosis drives hatred, and whatever contributes to that hatred IS the issue. (Like drugs and the MSM, which pervade our sense of peace and/or outrage.) Timothy McVeigh killed over 160 people and collapsed a multi story building with fertilizer and a U-haul. Guns are not the problem, and more laws are not the answer. That said, I really have no problem with more controls on automatic weapon sales--but I honestly just don't believe that would help.
     
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    I agree, but since the states no longer pay for people to be institutionalized, there is no way to control people with mental illness. Parents do not want to admit their kids have a problem, and adults will not take their medications once away from watching eyes. There is no way to control that. When they 'find' the thing that speaks to them, they become obsessed and that is all they live for, or in some of the school shootings, bullying pushed someone with a mental issue over the edge. The objective is to control the kill (pardon me for being blunt). A knife will take less lives than a semi-automatic. A single shot will take less lives than a semi-automatic. It comes down to damage control. Unless, of course, people want to pay more in taxes for mental hospitals like in the old days.
     
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    And just exactly how is gun control going to eliminate the millions - if not more - of illegal weapons in the hands of criminals?
     
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    Suggest you have you Lugar appraised. Early WWII and earlier production with matched serial numbers can be quite valuable.
    any firearms dealer would be happy to swap you a brand new derringer for your Lugar and laugh all the way to the bank.
     
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    Wow! Nothing but slanted opinion in that article. Not a single sentence showing any scientific expertise or method whatsoever.

    Take away a prosecutors ability to plea away a weapons charge.
    Bring back restricted or even involuntary custody for those that refuse to treat their mental illness.

    I am up in the air over red flag laws. As intended they are a great idea, but like everything else they would be perverted into weapons like Child Protective Services have been. Show me a lawyer and a bitter divorce and I will show you misuse!
     
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    None of my guns are registered! I own nothing but long guns and no registration is required. There is also no prohibition on reloading your own ammunition,so I am not sure that you can legitimately refer to it as black market. Years ago I did a bit of reloading and sometimes would do some "hot" loads for self and friends, but I certainly wasn't in Wendy's parking lot selling out of the trunk of my car.
     
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    what country are the registered firearms mentioned in?
     
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    @Maggie Mae

    #10 Post No truer words could ever be spoken!
     
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    @Bobby Cole
    I think you are simply not thinking about the fact that the laws are written so overlapping, so incongruously, and so convoluted, that nothing is black on white. Therefore, every thrust by, say, BATFE, against some particular individual often winds up in court, simply because even the lawyers themselves cannot clearly understand the wording, and court decisions are needed (not necessary, IMO) to finalize the dispute.

    The wording of the BATFE Official Brochure dedicated to the 1986 Law is misleading and actually not totally specific in meanings and dedications. I sent away to them years ago for it. They offered it as a guide to those individuals or companies seeking to become Licensed. I think I still have it in my safe. If you like, I will try to find it, and further, email you a copy for your own interest. I don't yet know if you are as "into" gun ownership as I.

    Regarding my Thompson, I sold it 12 years after passage of 1986 and 3 years after the Clinton Crime Bill of April, 1994. The buyer handled all the paperwork, as is normal, gave me a deposit, the gun remained in my possession until he received his Registration, at which time he got the gun, and I the rest of the dough.
    Frank
     
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    @Rene Descartes
    You surprise me! Most delightedly. Only problem I have is that in the event of being set upon by more than one miserable combatant, an event happening often to assure success, two rounds quickly available is inadequate protection. For convenient purse carry, I've always leaned towards the S&W Model 38, 5-rounds, standard revolver having lightweight aluminum alloy frame, shrouded hammer, but still has a tiny spur exposed to allow hand-cocking without firing, if desired. The shroud alleviates catching of the hammer spur when drawing from it's carry place. Chambered for .38 Special ammunition. I searched, but could not find an introduction year; originally they were a "scarce" arm on the market commanding high prices. I believe I first heard of them in the 1960s. May be slightly larger overall than your pic, and cylinder makes it thicker.

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    Below, the Model 38 in polished Chrome Plate, still aluminum framed, but Stainless Steel working parts.
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    @Ken Anderson
    They did. Armed soldiers went door to door, demanding guns, and searching if denied presence of any. PLENTY had been kept-well-hidden!
    Frank
     
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    No disrespect meant to the other half of our family across the Atlantic. :)
     
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