Do You Believe In An Afterlife?

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  1. Babs Hunt

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    Here's my understanding of what you are asking Yvonne. The army of God spoken of in Revelation 19 is made up of the Bride of Christ (all of us believers) for sure. The Disciples are probably there in that army and there may be some angels too. Basically, the army of God is made up of all those who are God's. The army of God is not going into battle...they are only there to see Jesus defeat evil and take His rightful place as King of kings and Lord of lords. We as the army of God are there to see and watch Jesus show us that He is exactly who He said He was and do exactly what He said He would do in His Word the Bible. We won't be fighting anyone, only observing as our Lord proves He is God!

    As for the angels being stars that fall to earth...the only thing I can think of that you might be talking about is that satan and alot of other angels were once God's angels who rebelled against God and were cast down to the earth because of this rebellion. satan decided he wanted to be God and he convinced some other angels they deserved this position too. There wasn't any room for more than one God in heaven or for rebellion either so God cast them down to earth where satan has been ruling ever since. And will continue to do so until Jesus comes back and takes care of that litte problem.

    @Yvonne Smith... Could this this be what you are talking about with the stars?

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    I do and I have had an experience with it. There is re-incarnation...and yes Jesus does talk about this in that Bible. Jesus talked about a lot of things in that Bible and he also talked about them in other places too. Our body is a puppet that we use to learn lessons to mature in spirit. We do go on. It is like being in a school and in a school room and then there is the hallway and across from that is another room. We simply go out one door to the hallway and on to the next classroom. Each classroom we do change clothes (bodies) that would be appropriate to what we are to learn in that classroom. There are many classrooms and there are also other buidling and in other places as well.

    Here is what I learned: http://thelifeofdebralewis.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-happens-after-death-my-personal.html
     
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    About a year after my wonderful old 'watchdog' Freddie the SheepDog died, a beautiful tree starting growing over the spot he was buried. Always amazed us.
     
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    Very interesting perspective @Debbie Allen. The only thing close to reincarnation to me in the Bible would be when our earthly bodies are "reincarnated" to glorified bodies. Hopefully as we go through the different "seasons" (birth, childhood, adulthood, senior years) of our lives we do mature and grow into all God intended us to be.
     
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    My husband says he's going to live to be 110 and I tell him "Fine Babe but don't expect me to be there with you as I want no part of it." I'd be 106. :(
     
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    No, you are missing it altogether. Christ said Oh Death Where Is Thy Sting. It is alo mentioned when someone sees Jesus and exclaims him to be an older prophet. It's all over the bible, jut many do not see it as it is explained away. We do lose our bodies and we do come back. Most people think it is to the same body...not true. They are also taught that it is to do the same as we did in anotyher previous lifetime...that is also not true. Though we do have Karma from this lif that we are living and from out past lives too and what we are doing in this life will be Karmatic in the next one.

    Here is someting that I found to be a bit helpful:
    Christian Reincarnation
     
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    Thank you for sharing your views @Debbie Allen. I may not agree with them but I do find them very interesting.
     
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    I am so glad that you do not call me names or speak harshly to me. Some things people are not ready to learn or experience. It simply is not their time.

    John 8: 42-59
    42 Jesus then said to them, `If God were your father, ye were loving me, for I came forth from God, and am come; for neither have I come of myself, but He sent me;

    43 wherefore do ye not know my speech? because ye are not able to hear my word.

    44 `Ye are of a father -- the devil, and the desires of your father ye will to do; he was a man-slayer from the beginning, and in the truth he hath not stood, because there is no truth in him; when one may speak the falsehood, of his own he speaketh, because he is a liar -- also his father.

    45 `And because I say the truth, ye do not believe me.

    46 Who of you doth convict me of sin? and if I speak truth, wherefore do ye not believe me?

    47 he who is of God, the sayings of God he doth hear; because of this ye do not hear, because of God ye are not.'

    48 The Jews, therefore, answered and said to him, `Do we not say well, that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a demon?'

    49 Jesus answered, `I have not a demon, but I honour my Father, and ye dishonour me;

    50 and I do not seek my own glory; there is who is seeking and is judging;

    51 verily, verily, I say to you, If any one may keep my word, death he may not see -- to the age.'

    52 The Jews, therefore, said to him, `Now we have known that thou hast a demon; Abraham did die, and the prophets, and thou dost say, If any one may keep my word, he shall not taste of death -- to the age!

    53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, who died? and the prophets died; whom dost thou make thyself?'

    54 Jesus answered, `If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who is glorifying me, of whom ye say that He is your God;

    55 and ye have not known Him, and I have known Him, and if I say that I have not known Him, I shall be like you -- speaking falsely; but I have known Him, and His word I keep;

    56 Abraham, your father, was glad that he might see my day; and he saw, and did rejoice.'

    57 The Jews, therefore, said unto him, `Thou art not yet fifty years old, and Abraham hast thou seen?'

    58 Jesus said to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I am;'

    59 they took up, therefore, stones that they may cast at him, but Jesus hid himself, and went forth out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
     
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    I think we all believe different things which is obvious even on here. Nobody is right or wrong.
     
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    That's not exactly true, but I understand what you're saying. There is a right, and anything that isn't right is wrong, but that isn't something we're going to decide here.
     
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    Yes, there is one right answer and nobody really knows it is what I mean.
     
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    I know what I believe and why. What my enquiring mind wants to know is what others believe and why. If they differ from mine I find that interesting and will do my best to always respect others beliefs.
     
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    This is my understanding of whether or not we understand the bible "rightly". The bible is written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit, so if you are a saved christian, born of the Spirit, then God reveals the Truth of the bible through His Holy Spirit in the saved person.

    Now that is just what I believe. I think the bible is a spiritual text, so it has to be interpreted by the spiritual, not the physical, or authored by the physical.

    That may sound weird, but it is just what I've learned about what the bible says. Here is a very, good writing, and explanation of how I see the bible. Everyone please understand that I am not saying my ideas, or interpretations are correct, it is simply what I think/believe;)

    http://news.sosevents.org/bible-study-2/outline-one-the-bible/

    This is the part I was touching on about reading the bible, understanding I have of it:
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