Pope Francis Says World Must Rule The United States For Their Own Good

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  1. Hedi Mitchell

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    Omg...sorry still thinking on how I want to address this act of ridiculious behavior :(
     
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  2. Bobby Cole

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    I do trust that Chrissy and Babs will work through it and all will be well again in the valley. They’re like two cats in a burlap sack when it comes to religion and in particular, Catholicism but they always seem to come out of the bag a little bruised but eventually come together as friends again.

    I do hope that is the case this time also. They’re both too well liked to lose.......
     
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    I guess I should've stayed out of the discussion, but I thought Chrissy felt her beliefs were being attacked. I would defend Babs' opinions as well. I thought I was supplying background, but ....
     
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    No need to regret your post. (I think I put a like on it, I’ll check).
    It was a good one and was extremely well written and factual but here’s the thing. As you have observed, Babs and Chrissy are on opposite ends when it comes to Catholicism. Babs has her thoughts on it and Chrissy has hers and neither one is going to back down on their own feelings about it and perhaps, rightfully so.
    It’s an ongoing scenario and has been for some time so please do not worry about your input. You just got caught in the crossfire and as you’ve probably noticed, most people pretty much stay out of the way when the fireworks begin.

    You’ve already learned when to duck and weave when some of the more “interesting” conversations come up and to tell the truth, you’re getting quite good at it!
     
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  5. Shirley Martin

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    Totally leaving religion out of it, would a one world government be such a bad thing? If all the countries in the world could be represented as our states are; each country paying it's fair share of costs and having it's best interests looked after; would that be so bad?

    I am not for or against, just interested in finding out facts.
     
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  6. Yvonne Smith

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    If there was such a thing as a world government that CARED about the people on this earth, and things were fair and people were truthfully represented , then I think that such a world government might be not a bad thing. Peace on earth would be more than just a Christmas carol.
    But when we look at the people who seem to want to be the leader of a country, most of them only want power, money, and control, and would be more like the people were serfs, or even slaves, in some cases.
    Things like having one money system, and being able to trade with other countries, and people to be able to live where they wanted to live, all of those things sound good; but the realistic truth is that this is never going to happen, and my belief is that the more we are controlled, the more we are enslaved.
     
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  7. Shirley Martin

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    So it's not the concept itself that bothers you but that the wrong people might gain control? I hope that others will express their opinions about whether this could ever work.
     
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    Exactly, Shirley !
    When we learned about what Heaven is supposed to be like, this is basically an example of a one world government, when you stop to think about it. It is run with love and compassion for everyone in Heaven, and each person is kind to everyone else, and even the animals are happy (and we are probably all vegetarians).
    What we have now seems to be hate and wars; but it is people fighting to keep their freedom, and I don’t think that world enslavement is any better than world wars, but both are unspeakably horrible.
     
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  9. Don Alaska

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    A one world government would most likely be patterned after something like the EU, where a bunch of appointed bureaucrats accountable to no one makes decisions about who should do what and who would pay for whatever it was.

    "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In forming a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.” —James Madison, The Federalist No. 51
     
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  10. Babs Hunt

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    I'm back to apologize for over reacting in this tread I started. Life is just really throwing some tough things in my life right now and my stress level is over flowing. So please everyone forgive me...and I will see y'all all again when my life calms down and I have more peace than stress affecting me.
     
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  11. Bobby Cole

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    Actually, in my book there’s nothing to forgive but if you need it, it’s yours my prodigal sister.
    If you need prayer, that’s there for the taking also.
     
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    Seconding what Bobby just posted.
    If you just need someone to have a “digital” cup of coffee with, just use messenger, and I am usually around.
     
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    I'll take all the prayers I can get right now...and will be thankful for every one of them!
     
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