Erasing History

Discussion in 'History & Geography' started by Diane Lane, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Kalvin Mitnic

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    The Taliban and other fundamental sectarian 'followers' of the Islamic faith are very good at destroying antiquities. Surely we don't wish to emulate that lot. Still a two hundred year (or less), commemorative ,memorial, remembrance, or celebratory street or building naming isn't the equivalent of a Western Wall or statues as ,
    "The Buddhas of Bamiyan 4th- and 5th-century
    [3] monumental statues of standing buddha, carved into the side of a cliff. They were dynamited and destroyed in March 2001 by the Taliban, on orders from leader Mullah Mohammed Omar,[7] after the Taliban government declared that they were idols....." (edited Wikipedia )

    Is the removal of those historical American 'hero's' equivalent to the destruction of the statue of Iraqi's
    Saddam Hussein statue toppled in Bagdhad,? Or of Lenin by the Ukes?

    What if the Pietà was destroyed by a future secular movement?
    What if Jerusalem ( city of peace) was renamed Islamsalam. Where does it stop. Perhaps an * could be simply added with an explanation of the objections.

    Personally I am hesitant to alter historical figures or names unless they reach the level like unto a
    Pol Pot,Stalin or Hitler.
    Soon there will no doubt be a PC and debate on every symbolic remembrance because 'someone' is offended.
     
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    @Kalvin Mitnic ......'someone' is offended."

    Violent response to being "offended" in a way that beleaguers only the mind indicates the degree of convolution and miasmic content it must contain. Posing violent response to an offense aimed at physical harm is yet something else. Call me a "dumb Polack", and I will shrug while weighing quietly your ignorance. Lash out at my person with a weapon, and I will shoot you. Both acts offend me.
    Frank
     
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    Often it's a perceived offense, a contrived offense or a litigation offense.
     
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    Ahh but there are degrees and there are the derma impaired. Getting into religion or politics is a sure means of assessing the skin thickness of a debater. Actually some come across more as a wanker than master debater.

    Calling someone a dumb Polock is tantamount to calling Trump POTUS isn't it? ;)
     
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    Truth or dare seems to matter little given Willy's wandering Willy,impeachment and yet hefty speaking fees.
     
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    @Kalvin Mitnic ".... a dumb Polock...."

    In order to truly apply, "Polack" must not be misspelled, especially as close as your rendition is to a type of fish.....
    Frank
     
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    I don't know. My mother used to tell me that fish was brain food.
     
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    @Ken Anderson
    Sheesh, I'm grounded deciphering your response. Could mean I'm "out of touch" due to inadequate fish, or, you are sublimely chastising me for "forum harassment". The latter, of course, reflects obviously upon my lack of tactful sparring ability, and my dislike of fishmongers as well. So, reviewing my recent past here, reflecting, I've relented and pulled my head back into my shell, quietly awaiting the perceived opportunity to suddenly strike out, like the great Snapping Turtle.

    Reflecting back awhile, the place has seemed to me to be a bit subdued in recent weeks, no vicious action at all. So, I thought I'd "stir things up" a bit. It just happens as a consequence, ya know?
    Frank
     
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    Actually, there was a third alternative -- I was making a joke.
     
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    Polock-Polack pish-tosh. It sounds the same in a verbal offensive, aka Oh Fence Sieve insult. (a dumb Polack would never hear any difference.) :)
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Polock
    Polock

    English
    Noun
    Polock (plural Polocks)

    1. Alternative spelling of Polack
     
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    @Ken Anderson
    I seem to always be at a loss to perceive a comment being in a light vein. Maybe because of my rigid black or white interpretation of everything, never "grey". I ought to fix that.....
    Frank
     
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    Please, do not fret nor have any angst about the inability to go grey. Although it would seem that folks are continually attempting to shade or lighten black and white and then calling them a different name, it is still in the grey spectrum.
    I too have a lot of difficulty with anything less than yes or no, black or white but we live in a "maybe" world where grey (with the exception of hair) is the name of an enclave with millions upon million of members.
     
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    Don't give up your sense of humor or you might become a snowflake
     
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    I rather like snowflakes. Each one is singularly different from all others which means that for a brief period until it melts it is a rarity.

    Oh, you mean THAT KIND of snowflake! Naw, it takes way to much to offend me.
     
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    Sometimes I have a hard time even taking the serious stuff seriously.
     
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